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The Hollow Man (Rush Limbaugh, Cruz & Conservatism)
Hotgas.net ^ | March 13, 2016 | Joseph K

Posted on 03/13/2016 7:54:48 PM PDT by CreviceTool

For 26 years, Rush Lim­baugh has insisted that con­ser­v­a­tive val­ues, clearly and pas­sion­ately artic­u­lated, will win every time. By con­ser­v­a­tive val­ues Rush meant: God, coun­try, fam­ily, com­mu­nity, lib­erty, indi­vid­u­al­ism, per­sonal respon­si­bil­ity, lim­ited gov­ern­ment, and free mar­kets. Rea­gan was the model, and the promise: it had hap­pened once, and could hap­pen again.

Eas­ier said than done.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; conservative; cruz; exposingted; isaiah3verse4; jeremiah17verse5; limbaugh; lyingted; notnews; rush; rushlimbaugh; trump
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To: 21twelve

Whoa that quote applies to Obama perfectly. I don’t see Trump having the same good fortune forthcoming, but I may be wrong.


181 posted on 03/14/2016 12:26:41 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: patlin
.. he is seeking the presidency in order to restore and preserve that which helped him build his wealth ..

That's heresy, to the haters.

182 posted on 03/14/2016 12:27:30 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: Fledermaus

The article is a silly smear of Cruz that manages to be both unhinged and haughty. But it plays well to a certain crowd.


183 posted on 03/14/2016 12:29:52 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: FredZarguna

Was that what Reagan was? A populist, voted in by a mob? Rethink it, buddy!


184 posted on 03/14/2016 12:31:35 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: FredZarguna

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with this article or the author.

Thanks for playing anyway.


185 posted on 03/14/2016 12:39:19 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Just mythoughts

> When the NewYorkTimes of all liberal rags, exposed Rush secretly meeting with Schumer and Graham back in 2011 to get the talking points on amnesty... Rush sold out his credibility...

Which talking points are those? I catch part of Rush’s show several times a week, and have for decades. Often I’ve heard him criticize illegal immigration, criticize amnesty, and criticize the idea that Republicans need to accept it as a political strategy (and I know I’ve heard him criticize Schumer by name, and am pretty sure he has criticized Graham by name too — he definitely has opposed the general McCain-Graham approach to politics). What has he said to counter that?

> A signal to the money man Rush would be for NOBODY to tune into him tomorrow...But that won’t happen, too many still consider him a voice of conservatism...

Could that be because he has been one, going back to 1984 in Sacramento, more than 30 years? When I hear him supporting amnesty, then I’ll believe he has changed his view. I haven’t heard it.


186 posted on 03/14/2016 1:26:02 AM PDT by GJones2 (Rush an ally of Schumer and Graham?)
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To: GJones2
Rush promoting Rubio as a ‘full throated’ conservative? I have READ (I quit listening to Rush back when he read the LIE of Elliot Abrams, printed in the NR, about Newt, right before the 2012 Florida primary.) Rush claims both Rubio and Cruz are in the likeness of Ronald Reagan... code for amnesty.

Neither Cruze or Rubio are even ‘Constitutionally’ eligible to hold the office of president.... But now the Constitution does not even matter to Rush... Rush use to claim that Cruz follows the ‘original intent’ of the Constitution... But no more, now Cruz is called the ‘consistent conservative’... Lies upon lies upon lies.

187 posted on 03/14/2016 1:32:51 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: CreviceTool

“Rush kept the faith, exhort­ing, cajol­ing, com­fort­ing, and dream­ing of the per­fect can­di­date.”

Sure, there may have been some “dreaming” but it doesn’t take a Rush Limbaugh to understand that the “perfect candidate” is just a model.


188 posted on 03/14/2016 1:53:57 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: CreviceTool

Just another idiot that left out the part before the but

Cruz blamed the protesters first
If strumpets stopped lying about Cruz they would have nothing to say


189 posted on 03/14/2016 2:29:38 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: Just mythoughts

> Rush promoting Rubio as a ‘full throated’ conservative?

Since 2011 that’s all they got for their meeting? :-) I agree that “full-throated” sounds excessively positive. I’d interpret it to mean that Rubio has spoken out loudly for conservative positions, and he often has — with the major exception of amnesty. Rush doesn’t include support for amnesty among conservative positions (despite Reagan’s earlier mistake, from which we’ve had plenty of time to learn). Week after week for years he has criticized support for amnesty. One term like “full-throated” can’t counter that.

He has praised Cruz extravagantly as well, and for months he reported with delight how Trump was confounding the media and the Republican establishment. Judged by what Rush has been saying about issues over the years, I think he’d put Cruz first, Rubio second (but oppose him on anything favorable to amnesty), then Trump (over establishment candidates like his supposed buddy Graham). He might prefer Trump to Rubio if he believed Trump’s newfound conservatism were genuine. I doubt that he believes it, though.


191 posted on 03/14/2016 3:14:10 AM PDT by GJones2 (Rush an ally of Schumer and Graham?)
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To: Just mythoughts

I found Rush’s remark about Rubio in context. I don’t know if it’s from an accepted source, but if anyone disagrees with the wording, we can find several sources and compare them.

“I don’t like this idea that Marco Rubio is all of a sudden being labeled as an establishment candidate. I know that Rubio’s got the baggage of that gang of eight bill. And I know that in many people’s minds, he’s got the baggage of wanting to grant the current number of illegals citizenship. I understand that. But I’m here to — Marco Rubio is no moderate Republican centrist. I’m not — I could sit here like anybody else could and try to make explanations for you of why he did the gang of eight. But I’m not even going to try to put words into his mouth. I don’t want to be seen as making excuses. I’m just telling you, I don’t see Marco Rubio as anything other than a legitimate, full-throated conservative. Nobody’s pure and nobody is ever free of making mistakes.”

So in the same passage in which Rush calls Rubio a “full-throated conservative” he criticizes him for being part of the gang of eight.


192 posted on 03/14/2016 3:17:45 AM PDT by GJones2 (Rush and Rubio: the full-throated conservative remark in context)
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To: onyx

Did you write that? Quite astute. Can I use that in my book.


193 posted on 03/14/2016 3:43:08 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Jim Robinson

What’s down in the well comes up in the bucket.

J. C. Watts


194 posted on 03/14/2016 3:44:15 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Theophilus

And a hollow response, typical of the entire Cruz campaign.


195 posted on 03/14/2016 3:49:59 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: digger48

Nope, I’ve never left that out. Cruz said that the protesters were to blame, and then made a broader point that Trump needs to tone down the calls for violence that he’s been engaging in from the stump repeatedly.


196 posted on 03/14/2016 3:53:05 AM PDT by RightFighter (This space for rent)
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To: FredZarguna

Have difficulty reading, huh? If “conservatism” is merely “principles” that ver affect change, it is dead. Paul wrote “the Law kills but the Spirit gives life.” Cruz epitomizes the “conservative law” that ignores the spirit of the people that give it life.


197 posted on 03/14/2016 3:53:37 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think that any man who achieves election to the US Senate and who IMMEDIATELY begins to cast eyes on the Presidency must be scrutinized VERY CLOSELY for excessive ambition and excessive self-regard.

I mean, that’s a feature of all politicians, one we must account for in our calculations, but the Harding-JFK-Obama examples are all bad ones.

Rubio is, obviously, so sick with ambition that he’s failed to hide it, as most of them are able to do. Brother Cruz is handling the stress of covering it up badly, though, and he’s going to be a very lonely man when he returns to the Senate.


198 posted on 03/14/2016 4:00:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown, are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: jsdjason

No one’s keeping you here.

But please, write an entertaining opus when you go.


199 posted on 03/14/2016 4:05:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Gator113
It might answer many of the questions you will likely have.

As usual, Cruz will outperform the polls but regardless, there doesn't seem to any political unity left to win. We, who have any conservative bent at all, are undone and I don't care to listen to hollow speculation as to why.

200 posted on 03/14/2016 4:10:56 AM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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