Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 13 March 2016

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 13 March 2016 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[savedbygrace]

That’s fine, as long as you understand your role in a given situation, and that it is not always legal or correct to beat someone. Only anarchists believe otherwise.

[savedbygrace]

Just looked at your posting record and before today you posted in 2015 a couple times then a couple in 2013 and most in 2010. Seems to coincide when Obama was running, how convenient.

I just looked at my posting record and what you wrote is a lie. A huge lie. I have make a lot of posts every month for years.

YOU LIE and that is a fact, bubba.

[bray]

Here are all your posts before yesterday:
Windows Installer App not Working
12/20/2014, 7:19:10 AM · by savedbygrace · 49 replies
Handgun Purchase Suggestions
12/7/2014, 9:30:46 AM · by savedbygrace · 108 replies
Need Vehicle Help
11/8/2014, 9:40:27 AM · by savedbygrace · 81 replies
Want to Buy a New PC
12/23/2013, 12:43:41 PM · by savedbygrace · 123 replies
Firefox 24.0 Sux in Windows7
10/12/2013, 5:42:14 AM · by savedbygrace · 71 replies
My Brain | 10/12/13 | savedbygrace
‘Is Everybody Blind?’ - Marine Exposes Homeland Military Build Up
8/27/2013, 3:07:11 AM · by savedbygrace · 19 replies
American Thinker ^ | August 18, 2013
Social Security Question
3/16/2013, 11:13:02 AM · by savedbygrace · 27 replies
A Republican Plan and Pledge
10/14/2012, 7:22:31 AM · by savedbygrace · 4 replies
Me | 10/14/12 | Me
Clean LCD HDTV screen?
7/8/2012, 5:39:48 PM · by savedbygrace · 73 replies
Ronald Reagan tells joke about Democrats
2/6/2012, 3:56:02 PM · by savedbygrace · 9 replies
YouTube ^
Is this man truly a genius?
12/7/2011, 7:03:30 PM · by savedbygrace · 43 replies · 1+ views
Email | Unknown
Condensed History of the World
11/3/2011, 4:32:03 AM · by savedbygrace · 5 replies
Two charged with stealing Lawrence County bridge
10/15/2011, 10:00:49 AM · by savedbygrace · 33 replies · 1+ views
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | October 15, 2011 | Liz Navratil
The Right Wingers’ Oath
9/30/2011, 3:49:35 AM · by savedbygrace · 5 replies
Boatlift - 9/11 Ten-Year Anniversary Short Film
9/14/2011, 5:02:20 PM · by savedbygrace · 12 replies
Tom Hanks Online ^ | September 08, 2011 | Tom Hanks
Obama’s Recovery Bummer (Video)
6/30/2011, 3:26:11 PM · by savedbygrace · 3 replies
YouTube ^ | 6/29/11 | Senator Jim DeMint
My Fathers’ Day Gift
6/18/2011, 10:01:03 AM · by savedbygrace · 17 replies
Me | 6/18/2011 | savedbygrace
A bipartisan group of legislators won’t give up on Oregon
4/17/2011, 2:16:17 PM · by savedbygrace · 2 replies
YouTube ^ | Apr 1, 2011 | The Legislative Study Group Productions

Who is lying and who is an obvious plant?

[savedbygrace]

You are lying. You were comparing my posts this weekend, during which I created zero threads, which means you were not talking abut threads created, but with comments posted.

That makes it obvious you were trying to conflate threads created with comments posted.

Therefore, you were intentionally lying about me.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Looks like it’s about time for a zot.

[savedbygrace]

For posting the truth? bray was accusing me of being a troll this weekend and used ONLY the threads I have created, rather than comments posted to try to prove the claim.

It is obvious that bray was saying that my large number of comments posted this weekend are a rarity, and then tried to use only threads created as proof. Apples and oranges.

[savedbygrace]

Also, it is fair, and within forum guidelines, to say that someone is lying when you show proof that they lied.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

See: Rule of holes.

[savedbygrace]

Here is one of my posts from yesterday:

This is what Cruz said:

“I also want to mention something about the events this evening in Chicago. This is a sad day. Political discourse should occur in this country without a threat of violence without anger and rage and hatred directed at each other. We need to learn to have disagreements without being disagreeable, to have disagreements while being respecting human beings on the other side.

“Earlier today over thirty people were arrested at one rally. And then tonight as violence broke out the rally was canceled altogether. Now, the responsibility for that lies with protesters who took violence into their own hands. But in any campaign responsibility starts at the top. Any candidate is responsible for the culture of the campaign. And when you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have a campaign that’s facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discord.”

You have expressed your opinion that when but is used, it negates what comes before it. Now look at a transcript of a Trump speech and note that his use of but must negate what he has said about what he would do about immigration:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/06/16/donald-trump-transcript-our-country-needs-a-truly-great-leader/

In other words, you cannot analyze what the word but means when Cruz says it and then analyze it to mean something else when Trump uses it. In fact, if you are correct about its meaning (you are not), then a prepared speech by Trump, assisted by professional political staff, would be more likely to be used the way you think it is used, than when Cruz, a well educated lawyer, is speaking off the cuff.

You can’t have it both ways.

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So far, nobody has even tried to disprove that reasoning. But many have continued to claim I am wrong, or a troll, or a BLM supporter, all without any evidence to back up their wild and unsubstantiated claims.

I have posted facts, evidence, and well reasoned arguments. For that, you want to have me zotted? Wow, that’s a leap.

[PJ-Comix]

OK, Ok. Not a big deal. Post away.

[onyx]

Simply put, our Sunday Show thread was invaded yesterday morning by a nauseating poster who tried "its" irritating best to turn it into an idiot "off topic debate" thread which it's not!


Michelle Fields, Ben Shapiro Resign From Breitbart

[rodguy911]

The problem with the muzzies is that 50% are content to sit back and do nothing while the wackjob isis types go ballistic cutting heads and raping women.

[rodguy911]

The problem with the muzzies is that 50% are content to sit back and do nothing while the wackjob isis types go ballistic cutting heads and raping women.

[Alas Babylon!]

This is the way I see it:

Someone comes on the peaceful Sunday thread and says, “I hate Cruz/Trump and here’s why.”

Someone replies to that with, “You suck, you brainless dolt (insert whatever insult), and here’s why.”

I’m going to take exception to that. It is a personal attack.

If the counter reply was “You are wrong, and here’s why.” then that is OK.

I vehemently disagree with savedbygrace, but he really didn’t insult anyone here. In fact, he was personally insulted several times.

We can keep the peace by simply not replying in the first place.

Some people like to always have the last word, and I’ve seen threads on Free Republic go to hundreds of posts just replying back essentially with “Is so!” “Isn’t!” “Is so!” “Isn’t!”...

Best bet: Just stop posting to that person.

Or, as I said earlier: Do not feed the trolls.

[kabar]

I vehemently disagree with savedbygrace, but he really didn’t insult anyone here. In fact, he was personally insulted several times.

Does being called a liar constitute an insult? If so, then I was personally insulted several times.

[onyx]

Thanks very much, awesome you, AB!

I agree - DO NOT FEED TROLLS - TOTALLY IGNORE!!


Given that I was the first one Post #174 savedbygrace 7:40:45 AM PDT but didn't reply until Post #228 10:21:50 AM CDT by onyx

I knew we had a troll when s/he replied with this Post #231 10:23:32 AM by savedbygrace


and in between we had this exchange ...
onyx rant to savedbygrace

savedbygrace concedes to onyx

IMHO, our Sunday Show thread, was in ruins thanks to our disruptor, savedbygrace, so I made two more posts before leaving altogether.

Sunday was a lovely 85 degree sunny day outside, so I enjoyed my day with Louie, although without our disruptor, I would have stayed with our thread for at least another hour.

To: savedbygrace

254 posted on 03/13/2016 8:39:33 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)

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Post #266 by onyx

To: TornadoAlley3

WE have been to a TRUMP Rally and I watch several every week.

Daily, in fact.

I suggest ignoring this thread disruptor.

[onyx]

WE have been to a TRUMP Rally and I watch several every week.

Daily, in fact.

I suggest ignoring this thread disruptor.

[TornadoAlley3]

And I did.

[Lazamataz]

I dunno. I hope to have a reasonable exchange with him on my thread Donald Trump dresses like a SLUT!. I screwed with him for a while, but in the end, I offered him a decent post. If he responds trollishly, we shall know for sure, but so far, no response.

[savedbygrace]

Didn’t know you wanted me to respond.

As you know, I am trying to make people aware of the double standard that many Trump supporters are guilty of employing.

Those who really cannot see that they are guilty of this are in the most danger. A person should never allow himself/herself to shut their thinking down to support a political candidate.

Laz, you have been kinder than most, many of whom have attacked me personally without factual support for their name calling and attacks.

BTW, a few years ago, onyx was in agreement with me on an important issue here on FR that saw a large number of threads hotly debated and treated me like a good friend. I disagree with her WTR Trump and she calls me nasty names and stuff. Funny, huh? I suspect that is how Groupthink causes people to join groups and causes just so they will be “liked”.

[onyx]

Listen here you.

Sunday Show threads are NOT DEBATE threads.

You came in here looking to fight, just like a disrupter at a Trump event.

You were off topic from the get, yet you continued endlessly on.

I left.