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What really happened at the Chicago rally - My Firsthand Account
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Posted on 03/12/2016 2:51:35 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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To: SoFloFreeper

First who is the mayor of Chicago? Could it be that he didn’t want a successful Trump rally held in his domain? Second I would have loved to see the Trump supporters start singing “Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me.” Though it may have just inflamed the vitriol of the protestors’ demons even more. This protestation seems irrational, violent and criminally threatening. It’s scary to think such people want control over the nation,


21 posted on 03/12/2016 3:24:26 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: hoosierham

Official orders telling the cops to give the anarchists room to destroy?
The Baltimore strategy


22 posted on 03/12/2016 3:24:34 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: DB

Private security is very limited in what they may legally do,and some cities add more restrictions. While many people assume private security have the same or nearly the same power as police the criminals are fully aware of the limitations.Essentially ,private security has only the arrest power of any citizen and is usually constrained by employer orders to merely observe and report;escorting troublemakers requires the cooperation of the troublemaker.The police are to be called to do actual “hands-on” removal.It is all about lawyers and liability.The private officer can be a court witness,can close doors, can tell troublemakers to desist, and can defend himself or others only as any other citizen might in the same situation.

DEPUTIZED private security or off-duty police officers hired for event security do have the full police powers in nearly all jurisdictions.(and this is also a reason police unions promote hiring off -duty cops at overtine rates for events).


23 posted on 03/12/2016 3:27:59 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

....the Clinton Crime Foundations.


24 posted on 03/12/2016 3:28:50 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t understand why the predominately black cities don’t want Trump and his promises of deporting illegals and creating jobs. Don’t they want to work? Are they mad because jobs will become available and they don’t want them? Easier to live off the backs of hard-working Americans? Trump was saying during the chaos last night that the people were pissed because of no jobs. I think he’s wrong on that one. They are pissed because they might have to work.


25 posted on 03/12/2016 3:29:27 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Wake up, America.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Mr Trump opened a seam that let bubble out the hatred we all knew existed. We’ve all seen snippets in a random crime or in some cases more personally in a workplace. But potential consequences somehow managed to keep things from getting out of hand. But witness a group too large, a police force too small, and a whole group that they hate with a fierce heat all in one place and conveniently disarmed. They showed their truest colors.


26 posted on 03/12/2016 3:29:41 AM PST by lovesdogs (Think Mr Trump can't make Mexico pay for the wall? He made the media give him a free campaign)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thanks SFF,GOOD REPORT


27 posted on 03/12/2016 3:29:55 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: lovesdogs

Very true. And a police force completely unmotivated to put a stop to it.


28 posted on 03/12/2016 3:31:49 AM PST by JustaCowgirl
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To: pepsionice

Not sure what your time frame was.

So far, in 2016, the murder toll in Chicago is 116.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2016-chicago-murders/timeline?mon=1

Roughly equals 50/month.


29 posted on 03/12/2016 3:36:37 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: hoosierham

My limited experience with hiring security is off duty sheriff deputies. I would assume Trump would hire off duty police/sheriff deputies and not just security guards.


30 posted on 03/12/2016 3:40:27 AM PST by DB
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yea so what at 1AM many of us are sleeping.


31 posted on 03/12/2016 3:42:53 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: hoosierham

“You don’t suppose the Chicago police were ordered to be ineffective ?”

I was thinking about this last evening when I was hearing about the rally cancellation, etc... It also occurred to me that the whole BLM movement, as well as the Departmment of Justice police department investigations, purposeful race agitation by the President, and support from many of those in the Democrat party has weakened law enforcement across the board to some degree. It was very clever of them to proactively do accomplish this in order to prepare of opposing any Republican candidate that may become a potential threat to Hillary.

I believe without a doubt that Chicago police presence was intentionally inadequte. With Mayor Rahm, that’s a pretty safe bet. That’s how these people roll—no concern for the safety of the people who would want to attend a political rally for Donald Trump. It may also be that it was more than a mere lack of concern, and an outright belief that the rally attenders deserved any violence that happened to them for even trying to attend Trump’s rally.

The protesters/anarchists were very successful in their home of Chicago, but I don’t believe that will be completely the case in other locales. However, I think that the concerted effort to weaken law enforcement has taken a toll and makes it more difficult for them to address the protesters.


32 posted on 03/12/2016 3:43:12 AM PST by MNGal
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks, I did!


33 posted on 03/12/2016 3:44:53 AM PST by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: lovesdogs
Mr. Trump has restored our right to assemble, which it seemed that only thugs had. Take that away and we have NOTHING left.

The disruptors have no right to disrupt rallies. It's like screaming "fire" in a crowded theater. Just like Black Lives Matter never should've been allowed to stop traffic, burn cities, wreak havoc in the name of a right to protest.

Could this be the time we all feared we were heading to? Having elitist Republicans enable our freedoms being taken away might be one step too far.

34 posted on 03/12/2016 3:46:04 AM PST by grania
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To: MNGal

The police are afraid to step in. If they make one wrong move, they are demonized as the criminal. Can’t hardly blame them. Chicago police force should strike or simply quit and find jobs where people want their help.


35 posted on 03/12/2016 3:46:57 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Wake up, America.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; Jim Robinson; Impy; onyx; pax_et_bonum; WildHighlander57; Kackikat; shoff; ...

I think Glenn Beck ought to read this.

You encountered the REAL brown shirts!

Any republican who sides them is a wimp, a coward, and probably an opportunist to boot.

Speaking of which, the Clintons are behind all the ‘brown shirt’ talk.

Link coming up in post to ‘all’.


36 posted on 03/12/2016 3:47:33 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: tuffydoodle

I posted the same thought last night. The Bernie crowd isn’t angry because they don’t have jobs, they’re angry because they don’t want jobs.


37 posted on 03/12/2016 3:48:13 AM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: All

How Clintons are behind the Trump KKK/Nazi Smear Campaign
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3406497/posts

’ ... The [NYT] article reported that Bill Clinton and others argued against those inclined to underestimate Trump ‘that Mr. Trump clearly had a keen sense of the electorate’s mood and that only a concerted campaign portraying him as dangerous and bigoted would win what both Clintons believe will be a close November election ...’

Anti-Defamation League

‘On February 25, the Anti-Defamation League issued a press release in which ADL National Chair Marvin D. Nathan and ADL CEO Jonathan A. Greenblatt called upon Trump ‘to distance himself from white nationalist and former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke, as well as other white supremacists, and publicly condemn their racism’.’

On March 7, Greenblatt’s ADL predecessor Abraham Foxman renewed the attack on Trump, telling Times of Israel reporter Eric Cortellessa that Trump was deliberately inviting his audience to make a ‘fascist gesture’ by raising their hands to pledge to vote for him.

[How the Anti Defamation League is now Clintonista and Soros]

Greenblatt, who recently replaced Abraham Foxman at the ADL’s helm, had previously been described in 2014 by Daniel Greenfield of the David Horowitz Freedom Center as ‘a Clinton official who bummed around NGOs during the Bush years and then became Obama’s director of the White House’s Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation’. Greenfield’s article exposed Greenblatt’s association with the Aspen Institute, funded by former Nazi collaborator George Soros, who had previously been condemned as a bigot by the ADL. In September 2015, Greenblatt had painted Ben Carson as a bigot, saying, ‘Dr. Ben Carson’s statement that a Muslim American should not serve as president is deeply offensive, un-American and contrary to the Constitution.’ In December 2015, after several months of the ADL sparring with Carson, Greenfeld had issued a press release condemning Trump’s call to seal the border against Muslims.


38 posted on 03/12/2016 3:48:37 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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To: Guenevere

Just a link to a first person account. Not my own.


39 posted on 03/12/2016 3:50:58 AM PST by SoFloFreeper (I am undecided between Cruz, Rubio & Trump...)
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To: tuffydoodle; ETL

Based on police positioning, someone coordinated police to be ineffective deliberately IMHO.


40 posted on 03/12/2016 3:52:11 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts?page=38)
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