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To: M. Thatcher
What are all you guys getting your knickers in a twist about? The people who commit the violence or threats of violence bear the responsibility. I think every reasonable person believes that.

But when you threaten violence or seem to condone it (as Trump did by saying in his day people left on stretchers, and I will pay your legal bills if you beat them) then you bear some responsibility for a violent environment.

I know no candidate did this so let me give you an example. If a protester came in and started yelling, and the candidate tells the crowd to beat the crap out of him, and the protester dies, is the candidate at all culpable? I say yes.

I think all Cruz was saying was that if you create an environment that your supporters feel it is OK to commit violent acts, like the guy who cold cocked that BLM protester, then you share some of the responsibility.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

122 posted on 03/11/2016 7:04:30 PM PST by Iowa David
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To: Iowa David
“What are all you guys getting your knickers in a twist about? The people who commit the violence or threats of violence bear the responsibility. I think every reasonable person believes that.
But when you threaten violence or seem to condone it (as Trump did by saying in his day people left on stretchers, and I will pay your legal bills if you beat them) then you bear some responsibility for a violent environment.

I know no candidate did this so let me give you an example. If a protester came in and started yelling, and the candidate tells the crowd to beat the crap out of him, and the protester dies, is the candidate at all culpable? I say yes.

I think all Cruz was saying was that if you create an environment that your supporters feel it is OK to commit violent acts, like the guy who cold cocked that BLM protester, then you share some of the responsibility.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.”

This string of logic has no power over the Trumpkins. They are impervious.

152 posted on 03/11/2016 7:08:45 PM PST by Tramonto (Trump will get Hillary elected.)
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To: Iowa David

I think if you go into a hostile environment knowingly and then antagonize the people there, why are you surprized when they react in a hostile way? It is the protesters who are at fault.


247 posted on 03/11/2016 7:21:12 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: Iowa David
What are all you guys getting your knickers in a twist about?

Disgusting.

The left violently vetoes freedom of assembly, and Ted Cruz, along with his dwindling pathetic supporters, side with the fascists.

249 posted on 03/11/2016 7:21:42 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Iowa David
I think all Cruz was saying was that if you create an environment that your supporters feel it is OK to commit violent acts, like the guy who cold cocked that BLM protester, then you share some of the responsibility.

Trump never told any supporter to hurt a protestor. You're parroting the left-liberal establishment meme that Trump bears some responsibility for people becoming violent at his rallies, simply because he's un-pc, and talks like millions of average Americans.

The correct response from Cruz should have been something having to do with the right of free speech and free assembly. He could have used this moment to show presidential-quality leadership, but he instead used it to draw blood on Trump. Very weak, and full of failure.

331 posted on 03/11/2016 7:32:27 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Iowa David

“Seems pretty straightforward to me.”

All those fine arguments fly out the window when you consider that this was a massively preplanned event by the protesters and that this was announced as a disruptive tactic for the Trump rallies, to target the rallies as an opposition force, not a tactic to oppose his supposed violent tone.


377 posted on 03/11/2016 7:39:29 PM PST by odawg
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To: Iowa David
I think all Cruz was saying was that if you create an environment that your supporters feel it is OK to commit violent acts, like the guy who cold cocked that BLM protester, then you share some of the responsibility.

Does your logic still apply when the police are doing the violent acts to try to get the protesters out of the building? Is it the candidate's fault that a bunch of leftists who were involved with the protests in Ferguson decide to cause trouble?

476 posted on 03/11/2016 7:58:07 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Iowa David

You are trying to apply logic to a group of people who have none, nor do they have any love for the truth. The truth is, what Cruz said is 100% correct and truthful. But...since the truth hurts the Trump followers, and since some of the others are too lazy to find out the truth on their own, and will settle for hearing a lame and twisted version of the truth instead, Cruz will, as usual, get all the blame here. Starting to think Cruz has taken over for George Bush re: that blame game BS.

Insanity rules at FR now. It’s official.


556 posted on 03/11/2016 8:19:59 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Iowa David

I think all Cruz was saying was that if you create an environment that your supporters feel it is OK to commit violent acts, like the guy who cold cocked that BLM protester, then you share some of the responsibility.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.


Like Stabby the Clown? You know, Beck the Knife?


736 posted on 03/11/2016 9:44:50 PM PST by Psalm 144 (That giant flushing sound is the New Whirled Order, going down the tubes.)
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To: Iowa David

“I think all Cruz was saying was that if you create an environment that your supporters feel it is OK to commit violent acts, like the guy who cold cocked that BLM protester, then you share some of the responsibility. Seems pretty straightforward to me.”

Straightforward for organized lefist-anarchists to shut down free speech events? Where have we seen that before?

And the real beauty of it is that Trump cancelled to avoid really bad things from happening by the leftist-anarchists who have been organizing this violence for weeks via social media, while the anarchists are crowing that they shut down a free-speech event, which isn’t going to go over too well with many people in this country. Seems to me Trump came out smelling like a rose and the anarchists came out smelling like poop.

Cruz sunk his own ship with this:

“Ted Cruz said violent protests are “the predictable consequence” of the atmosphere Trump’s campaign has created, while Bernie Sanders had his own strong words for the Republican presidential candidate. “

So it now appears Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders are two peas in a pod. Who woulda thunk it?

This Chicago Atrocity by leftist-anarchists will make Trump President!


741 posted on 03/11/2016 9:46:53 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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