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Ted Cruz: Closet Pentecostal
East Orlando Post ^ | March 11, 2016 | Jacob Engels

Posted on 03/11/2016 7:15:16 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw

While Ted Cruz proudly proclaims he is an Evangelical Christian, his campaign takes pains to hide the truth that Cruz and his pastor father, Rafael Cruz are Pentecostal Christians, a fact further hidden by having Ted and Heidi Cruz’s belong to the congregation of First Baptist Church, a Southern Baptist church in Houston, as their home church. Both Cruz’s parents, his father Rafael a Cuban-born immigrant, and his mother Eleanor, born in Wilmington, Delaware, grew up in Catholic families. Both were among the millions of that left the Catholic Church since the 1960s to embrace Pentecostalism, a Christian movement estimated to make up 4.4 percent of the U.S. population, accounting for some 13 percent of evangelical churches in the United States. - See more at: http://eastorlandopost.com/ted-cruz-closet-pentecostal#sthash.M95M8HTV.dpuf

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; pentecostal
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To: Kartographer

I actually prefer that the CINOs out themselves: easy to avoid in the future.


221 posted on 03/11/2016 9:34:58 AM PST by txhurl (Voted for Cruz, and another Bush, apparently!)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

There are 4 links:
This is the 2nd “Anointed” To “Take Control of Society” - “end time transfer of wealth”, “the 2nd coming”... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNa5w9js48s&feature=youtu.be


222 posted on 03/11/2016 9:35:08 AM PST by niki
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To: chuckles

Using your theory, it doesn’t matter. My mother is also a fatalist. It’s her only nasty habit.


223 posted on 03/11/2016 9:35:16 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Kartographer

I actually prefer that the CINOs out themselves: easy to avoid in the future.


224 posted on 03/11/2016 9:39:55 AM PST by txhurl (Voted for Cruz, and another Bush, apparently!)
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To: chuckles

I appreciate you took the time to write a detailed response and I agree with almost all that you wrote. Unfortunately, you lost me when you labeled Trump an “atheist.”


225 posted on 03/11/2016 9:41:46 AM PST by Publius22
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To: Kartographer

I just typed clearly what’s in my heart and I didn’t stutter. There can be no sensible debate with someone who has set their candidate choice up as the only Christian choice. It’s the stuff of Tele-vangelist scams and gouging.

That said, I really can sympathize with you. I was as you are about Cruz on behalf of the Republican Party for longer than I care to admit. When the hurt and disillusionment comes it’s going to be bad and you’ll find no celebrating or vengefulness with me. I’ve been there.


226 posted on 03/11/2016 9:42:25 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

But by all means, keep going. You are a prime example of what many need to be able to identify once Trump wins, as you are out for vengeance.


227 posted on 03/11/2016 9:44:30 AM PST by txhurl (Voted for Cruz, and another Bush, apparently!)
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To: American in Israel
I attend a Baptist church and we speak in tongues and anoint people, pray for healing's, whatever the Bible says to do. We even raise our hands in worship. Not everybody, but most. I don't consider myself Pentecostal or Baptist. Denomination is the construct of men. I'm a Bible believer. I am a Christian.

Many depend on denomination for salvation instead of Christ.

When the Apostles were planting churches, they called themselves "The Way". Denominations came 300-400 years later. My church was built as a Baptist church, but over the years, the Truth of the Bible won out and we became non denominational. Everyone is welcome and everyone has freedom. If you came there, you may declare it's Pentecostal, but you aren't required to speak in tongues and many don't. We have some that still claim to be Baptists, Methodists, ect, whatever background they came from. We also have a Methodist church a few miles down the road that doesn't marry gays and they speak in tongues. For me, denomination = legalism. Under grace, we have one Law,..."Love the Lord with all you heart, mind, soul, and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself." I find if we get much further than that we end up in bondage to legalism. Either Christ paid for my sin or He didn't. Bible says He did. If speaking in tongues is a sin, then Paul is in hell right now.

If the gifts aren't needed, who do you get your power from? Do you have power? Why would the Holy Spirit bring gifts from the Father if you didn't need them to fulfill your commission? If you choose not to get the gifts, it's your choice. It depends on how much of God you want to experience. He will not force Himself on anyone. Faith is a gift from God. If you want more, pray for it and God will answer. IMO, When you've tasted and seen, you won't go back. At the time He comes to you, are you a Baptist or a Pentecostal? God is not a Baptist or a Pentecostal. Why would a family member be forced into a man made construct. Worship and follow Him in the manner He desires. There is much more on this subject, but you probably weren't looking for a sermon. Much of it comes into judging others on things you haven't experienced, or asking yourself questions about Scripture your denomination won't, or can't answer.

228 posted on 03/11/2016 10:02:13 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Rusty0604

Again, it must be Methodist Hillary giving the writer the idea of plundering, not Baptist Ted Cruz.


229 posted on 03/11/2016 10:05:01 AM PST by taterjay
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To: Aleya2Fairlie
Even Christians can’t agree what Christian. So, who will you support?
.........................

I think anyone who has read the story of Christ knows what a Christian is. Christ defined it and it's quite simple. I believe Cruz knows, and that is why I was very disheartened (I originally supported him) when I witnessed how his campaign has gone, along with the youtube video and revelation that he basically doesn't tithe.

I support Trump. I would bet that he has never seriously read Christ's word so he falls into the category that probably 95% of the world falls into, thinking that the rules they make up are okay. Consequently, we have billions of gods on earth and mayhem abounds.

But at least Trump is not (to me) the phony that Cruz is and I hope and pray that with people like Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, and some of the pastors Trump has met with, he
grows and as a man and hopefully discovers Christ.

In the meantime, this country is a disaster and he is a man with a track record of doing what he says. And so far it seems to me that he has a grasp of what the primary problems are. Rubio’s a joke and Kasich seriously repulses me as everything wrong with our political system.

230 posted on 03/11/2016 10:15:00 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

I didn’t stutter either. My position is clear as a Christian you can’t have a leader who is not a believer sooner or later you will have to choose which to follow.


231 posted on 03/11/2016 10:17:53 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Publius22

What do you call someone that has never repented or seen the need to?


232 posted on 03/11/2016 10:29:18 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles
I attend a Baptist church and we speak in tongues and anoint people, pray for healing's, whatever the Bible says to do. We even raise our hands in worship. Not everybody, but most. I don't consider myself Pentecostal or Baptist. Denomination is the construct of men. I'm a Bible believer. I am a Christian.
  1. Your faith community is no longer Baptist. Which Baptist fellowship did it formerly belong to before it converted to Pentecostalism ?
  2. Which tongues do you think you speak ? Gibberish is not a valid language.
  3. Do you also take up snakes ?

233 posted on 03/11/2016 10:47:15 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Low down trick, trying to equate Pentecostals with snake handlers.


234 posted on 03/11/2016 10:48:54 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Salvation
Perhaps Cruz needs to have a re-version back to the Catholic faith of his childhood.

My belief is that God looks upon the heart, rather than upon the form Christian worship takes.

235 posted on 03/11/2016 10:50:13 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: fwdude
As if that’s somehow... unacceptable?

Well.

Depends on what you mean. Are you looking for a Presidential candidate who will get elected?

You must know that an "out" Pentecostal Christian couldn't get elected dog catcher in most places, never mind President.

So, yes, if getting the nominee elected is what you are selling, it IS unacceptable.

236 posted on 03/11/2016 10:53:44 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown, are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: chuckles
Getting Obama for 8 years should let you know we are under judgement. Getting Trump could be the final straw.

The final straw, or the start of the healing. God often has used flawed men to do His will.

237 posted on 03/11/2016 10:54:10 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: chuckles
What do you call someone that has never repented or seen the need to?

That's a red herring. An atheist is someone who denies the existence of God. Trump has in no way done that.
238 posted on 03/11/2016 10:57:38 AM PST by Publius22
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To: chuckles
If speaking in tongues is a sin, then Paul is in hell right now.

No human is there yet. It is appointed unto man once to die, then the judgment. After the judgment...

Your mileage may vary by scriptural interpretation.

239 posted on 03/11/2016 10:59:57 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: JimRed
Low down trick, trying to equate Pentecostals with snake handlers.

Snake handling, also called serpent handling, is a religious ritual in a small number of Pentecostal churches in the U.S., usually characterized as rural and part of the Holiness movement.

Do you believe snake handling and speaking in tongues is biblical ?

240 posted on 03/11/2016 11:02:05 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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