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Apple: FBI could force us to turn on iPhone camera, mic (FBI could force us to turn on iPh
http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/apple-fbi-could-force-us-to-turn-on-iphone-camera-mic/?cat_orig=us ^ | 3/10/16 | Samuel Gibbs

Posted on 03/10/2016 5:50:32 PM PST by Nachum

If the FBI wins in its case against Apple to help it unlock the San Bernardino killer’s iPhone 5C, it won’t be long before the government forces Apple to turn on users’ iPhone cameras and microphones to spy on them, according to the company’s head of services Eddy Cue.

The FBI has demanded that Apple creates custom software that bypasses certain security features of the company’s iOS to allow law enforcement to brute force the passcode of the gunman’s iPhone 5C.

But according to Apple, making the modifications necessary in this case would set a dangerous precedent in offering backdoors into users’ smartphones.

Cue said to Univision: “Someday they will want [Apple] to turn on [a user’s] camera or microphone. We can’t do that now, but what if we’re forced to do that?

“Where will this stop? In a divorce case? In an immigration case? In a tax case? Some day, someone will be able to turn on a phone’s microphone. That should not happen in this country.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: apple; california; camera; iphone; iphonecamera; iphonemic; sanbernadino; sanbernardino; surveillance
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To: Nachum

That’s why Apple makes them without easily removable batteries.

If I didn’t want the government monitoring me on my Blackberry, I just popped off the back and pulled the battery out. I don’t *think* they monitor my current phone, but I can pop the battery out if it, as well.


21 posted on 03/10/2016 6:37:41 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Nachum

Yep. Just like the body scan by the TSA: they’ll save the ones from the hot babes. All for national security.


22 posted on 03/10/2016 6:38:38 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Nachum

No reason why this company should be above the law.
I really don’t care to defend the liberal Tim Cook.


23 posted on 03/10/2016 6:43:59 PM PST by mabelkitty (Trump 2016! Mabelkitty - Unengaged and Low Information Voter since 2000!)
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To: Strac6

How bout the warrantless searches? Who gets the blame for those?


24 posted on 03/10/2016 6:48:50 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mabelkitty

What about our freedoms?


25 posted on 03/10/2016 6:49:37 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mabelkitty

I have to side with Apple on this one. The Government would certainly abuse our right to privacy given the chance.


26 posted on 03/10/2016 6:51:49 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: PAR35

Maybe we should put our iPhone into airplane mode and put them in an ESD bag.


27 posted on 03/10/2016 6:55:07 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

The government is asking (or demanding) that Apple write software that currently does not exist. Apple can’t just magically enter in the passcode to unlock the phone. They don’t know what the passcode is.


28 posted on 03/10/2016 7:03:54 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Nachum

I don’t own a smart phone. I’ve been saying all along that they do not bring much value into one’s life. Long live Luddites.


29 posted on 03/10/2016 7:08:22 PM PST by GingisK
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Yes.


30 posted on 03/10/2016 7:16:15 PM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Myth.


31 posted on 03/10/2016 7:17:43 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. - Ike)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

The govt. didn’t “ask” for anything, they showed up with a court order and said, “You work for us now.” I’d have told them to go suck it, too. The NSA could get into that phone within 20 minutes, that’s not what this is about.


32 posted on 03/10/2016 7:18:31 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Nachum

There is no way to make a smartphone secure.

Even the silicon of large scale SoC’s are likely compromised.

I think the uproar about needing Apple to break their devices is just crap to make people believe smartphones are secure.

You could make a smartphone secure with a simple external device designed to transfer secure data over an insecure network... I posted about this the other day...see below.
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You can make a perfectly secure computing device but it needs to be very simple.

A cheap microcontroller, a noisy diode(for random number gen), a simple display, a few buttons for data entry and control along with a few other simple parts and you have the device.

The software needs to be simple as well and of course open-source for peer review.

You can generate random numbers onto a pair of uSD cards and use that data to pass symmetric keys using the unbreakable one-time-pad method or use a public key system with adequate key length to pass symmetric keys.

It’s nearly impossible to secure a modern SoC based device like a smartphone....just too much complexity resulting in many attack vectors. But you can make a tiny external device and use it in conjunction with a smartphone to pass secure data over an insecure network.

You could build the external device into a protective case for a smartphone... data linking to the phone could be via audio or blue tooth. Both text and data could be handled easily using blue tooth.

Totally unbreakable as long as the private keys are generated on-the-fly and properly discarded or the one-time-pad data is properly discarded as it is used.

The one-time-pad method of symmetric key gen is cumbersome and has the key distribution problem but is mathematically provable to be totally secure.

The only technical attack possible IMO would be through compromised silicon and that’s unlikely when using a mass market uc like a cheap 32bit ARM. Compromised silicon is much more likely when using a complex SoC.


33 posted on 03/10/2016 7:20:04 PM PST by Bobalu (I'm spitting on my hands, and hoisting the black flag!)
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To: GingisK

Smartphones sure bring value into my life. For >4 years my salary comes from writing apps.


34 posted on 03/10/2016 7:20:40 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. - Ike)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

You can read the court order yourself, here:

http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/SB-Shooter-Order-Compelling-Apple-Asst-iPhone.pdf


35 posted on 03/10/2016 7:22:43 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Nachum

BS


36 posted on 03/10/2016 7:29:40 PM PST by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Nachum

I would think that they could do this already do this with your old analog cell phones. Which is why they want to have it now. I don’t believe this is a new feature request.


37 posted on 03/10/2016 7:30:32 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Nachum

Once the govt bans citizen privacy, only the govt will have secrecy.


38 posted on 03/10/2016 7:36:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: All

Thanks folks. That clarifies it for me. ;)


39 posted on 03/10/2016 7:37:47 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (How can God bless a country that's BUTCHERED 53 million babies?? Almost as many as ALL killed inWWII)
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To: Nachum

Black tape over the camera lens.

A BRAND NEW APP (or mod)—the ‘off’ switch.

Problem solved.


40 posted on 03/10/2016 7:50:34 PM PST by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left us.)
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