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CNN/ORC Poll: Trump, Clinton leading in Florida, Ohio (Ohio - Trump 41, Kasich 35, Cruz 15)
CNN ^ | March 9, 2016 | Eric Bradner

Posted on 03/10/2016 7:10:22 AM PST by xzins

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To: scooby321
Most there hate Ted with a passion.

I don't get it. He's way too much of a nonentity to have passion about: Mildly physically repulsive, deadly dull when not talking about religion, mildly amusing when he is talking about religion, slightly sinister in connection with Heidi, the NWO soldier, and totally predictable using the Bushes as parachute. Passion? Nah.

21 posted on 03/10/2016 7:28:36 AM PST by Stentor
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To: stockpirate

If he’s a cheat, he owns the state apparatus;

The SecState is repub.
The AG is repub.
The Supreme Court is repub.
The House is repub.
The Senate is repub.

Trump will not win a real two point race, even though that’s what the final numbers might say if he does win.


22 posted on 03/10/2016 7:28:57 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: bigbob
Thanks. Curiously we haven't seen many polls from Illinois or Missouri. At least not that I've seen. You'd think that Ohio and Florida are the only states voting next week based on the coverage.

Also, North Carolina but I'm thinking that should be safe for Trump. If Trump wins FL and NC, he'll have a complete clean sweep of the Deep South - which is pretty astonishing for a "city slicker" New Yorker like Trump!

23 posted on 03/10/2016 7:30:00 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Delegates So Far: Trump (458); Cruz (359); Little Marco (151)
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To: InterceptPoint

He will not beat Kasich big in Ohio. It’s a pure winner take all state, so a win is a win, and a loss is a total loss.


24 posted on 03/10/2016 7:30:06 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: TTFlyer

Yes, the Five was definitely Kasich supportive...


25 posted on 03/10/2016 7:30:59 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: xzins

FAUX News refusing to cite this poll this A.M. Fair and balanced. Not on your life.


26 posted on 03/10/2016 7:32:01 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: xzins
the key to winning Ohio, for any Republican, will be winning black votes and union votes in the Toledo, Cleveland, Akron, Dayton, Cincinnati, and Columbus areas. In every Presidential election in recent memory, the state has been overwhelmingly red with the exception of those areas.

Most Ohio union members despise Kasich over the whole SB5 issue back in 2011. This was widely perceived as an attack on collective bargaining by John Kasich. As such, John Kasich is probably not going to help win over union votes in urban areas.


27 posted on 03/10/2016 7:32:48 AM PST by RC one
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To: xzins

RoveCo is going to APE if Trump takes FL and OH.
I’m beginning to watch CA to see if they dump Hillary.
60% chance OR/WA feels the Bern.


28 posted on 03/10/2016 7:33:33 AM PST by Zathras
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To: xzins
In Ohio, Trump holds 41% to Kasich's 35%

Whoa! Isn't this a change from just late last week? Six points over Kasich in the state that he is Governor in?

29 posted on 03/10/2016 7:35:02 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: xzins

But the Fox News poll said Trump was loosing to Kasich in Ohio (sarc)!!!!


30 posted on 03/10/2016 7:35:36 AM PST by MissH
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To: xzins

A day old poll already posted and discussed is breaking news?


31 posted on 03/10/2016 7:36:41 AM PST by mcjordansc
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To: Zathras

I think Michigan was a wake up call about the weakness of Hillary. The only thing keeping her in the race is the feminist ownership of the party.

If someone wakes them up to the reality of Clinton’s vulnerability on legal issues, I think they’ll want to replace her with Warren at the convention.

The only way to do that is with a losing Bernie Sanders, so you are correct. They will not dump Hillary until the end of the primary season. She will take the majority of delegates and shut Bernie out is what they are hoping.

If Bernie takes Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina next week, then they have a Bernie problem on their hands.


32 posted on 03/10/2016 7:37:28 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: SamAdams76

Neither is a winner-take-all like Ohio or Florida.

In Missouri, if a candidate takes 50%+ of the statewide vote, then they get all 52 delegates. If there is no 50% winner, then the winner of each congressional district gets 5 delegates and the overall winner of the State gets 12 delegates.

In Illinois, each congressional district has 3 delegates and the overall winner gets 15 delegates.

There is a very interesting (i.e. stupid) situation in Illinois (both my parents are election judges in the State). There is a straw poll vote for the candidate of your choice, and then you vote separately for the delegates.

There is a list of delegates, grouped together by the candidate they support, and you have to vote for three separate ones (each candidate has to submit three names, so there is only three for each candidate).

The top three delegates are actually the ones who will go to the State convention.

Although unlikely to happen, in a close race we could see something like this occur:


Bob Smith and Bill Jones are in a tight race. Smith wins the straw poll by 200 votes to 190 votes. But while all 200 of Smith’s voters vote for the first name on his list of delegates, 30 of his voters don’t realize they need to vote for all three delegates and so they don’t vote for his second and third delegates.

Jones’ first delegate has 190 votes, and about 10 of his people don’t vote beyond that.

When the delegate votes are counted, Smith’s top delegate has 200 votes but his second and third delegates only have 170. Jones’ top delegate has 190, and his second delegate has 180.

So while Smith won the straw poll, he only got one of his delegates elected to the State convention, while Jones got two of his.


It’s unlikely to occur or have much impact if it did, but it’s a complicated way to run a primary and adds unneeded risk of corruption.


33 posted on 03/10/2016 7:37:38 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: LibertarianLiz

I don’t think so. I think Trump’s lead has been eroding over the last month once Kasich did well in New Hampshire. His lead used to be larger when Kasich was considered a non-factor.


34 posted on 03/10/2016 7:38:52 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: mcjordansc

Incorrect. This CNN/ORC Florida/Ohio article has NEVER been posted and is dated LATE yesterday.


35 posted on 03/10/2016 7:42:01 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: xzins

Is Ohio winner-take-all?


36 posted on 03/10/2016 7:42:56 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: patq
OH is way too close

I agree. Those Kasich campaign ads are real effective. The other thing is that the parts of OH are so disconnected that it's hard to imagine that a poll catches pockets of sentiment that can determine the outcome. On the plus side, early voting has gone on forever. It's suspected that those folks who switched parties and voted on the same day are already in Trump's column.

37 posted on 03/10/2016 7:43:09 AM PST by grania
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Yes.


38 posted on 03/10/2016 7:43:53 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: xzins

Oh my. So if Trump wins both Florida and Ohio, he essentially gets 165 delegates, completely hands off.


39 posted on 03/10/2016 7:45:23 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: TTFlyer
Kasich is “Presidential”

They were talking about the same Stepin Kasich I see on TV? That vocal cadence is stupor producing. I think he's still making a point he started in New Hampshire.

40 posted on 03/10/2016 7:50:22 AM PST by Stentor
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