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To: Red Steel

Trump does not own “his” delegates. The vast majority are the gopE. He has nothing to do with it. Once they’re free to change their vote they’ll do what they’re told by the gopE.

I’ll post this again to you:

I hope everyone understands that very few of the Cruz and Trump voters are delegates. Delegates are the republican governors and congress folks, County Chairman...in other words they’re chosen by the elite.

Just because Cruz were to get 42 delegates in Florida if he doesn’t get enough on the first vote ALL 42 are then allowed to vote for their favorite sons Bush or Rubio or whoever they’re told to vote for.

In fact, I doubt all of Texas delegates will vote for Cruz after the first ballot. It’s the same with Trump.

That’s why I say we need to support the one man they’re most scared of. I beg Cruz voters to vote for Trump so he can win it on the first count.

They did not discuss who to stop Cruz at their meeting this weekend.


69 posted on 03/08/2016 11:54:47 AM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: VerySadAmerican; Red Steel
Trump does not own “his” delegates. The vast majority are the gopE. He has nothing to do with it. Once they’re free to change their vote they’ll do what they’re told by the gopE. I’ll post this again to you: I hope everyone understands that very few of the Cruz and Trump voters are delegates. Delegates are the republican governors and congress folks, County Chairman...in other words they’re chosen by the elite. Just because Cruz were to get 42 delegates in Florida if he doesn’t get enough on the first vote ALL 42 are then allowed to vote for their favorite sons Bush or Rubio or whoever they’re told to vote for. In fact, I doubt all of Texas delegates will vote for Cruz after the first ballot. It’s the same with Trump. That’s why I say we need to support the one man they’re most scared of. I beg Cruz voters to vote for Trump so he can win it on the first count. They did not discuss who to stop Cruz at their meeting this weekend.

Correct. The delegates only "belong" to their candidates in the first round, when it's determined whether anyone has a majority delegate count (more than half). The pledged delegates are just representatives of the party assigned to a candidate based on popular vote, not based on their support for that candidate (except for Caucuses, where you select pledged delegates based on whom they support).

If no candidate has a clear majority, it goes to a brokered convention, in which case the majority of pledged delegates are "free" to vote as they choose, i.e. they become superdelegates. They will vote for the RNC's candidate of choice, which may be Rubio but is just as likely to be Jeb or Mitt.

The Democrats have it even worse. Bernie isn't that far behind Hillary in delegates assigned based on votes (something like 400 to 500), but her total delegate count is something like 3 or 4 times his because of superdelegates who vote for the DNC's candidate of choice. That means in the Democratic primary, a candidate not approved by the DNC doesn't have a fighting chance unless it's a landslide.

75 posted on 03/08/2016 12:07:08 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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