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Confederate flag debate stirred up at Gettysburg Battlefield (Scumbag Professor)
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Posted on 03/07/2016 2:38:12 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

GETTYSBURG, PA (WHTM/CNN) - Tensions ran high during a Confederate flag rally in Pennsylvania this weekend.

A Southern heritage group held what it calls Confederate Flag Day in Gettysburg, PA, but there were plenty of vocal opponents to the event.

The flag has 13 stars, three stripes and two very different meanings.

The refrain is familiar. Supporters such Mark Landree, executive director of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, says it's about history. Opponents like Christina Hansen only see hate.

(Excerpt) Read more at kmov.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: civilwar; dixie; gettysburg; museum
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To: Red in Blue PA

He is a crazy little man and needs/craves attention, don’t give it to him.


81 posted on 03/07/2016 6:07:09 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Right back at you, Confederate. Ignorant? Only an idiot , a racist or both would support the Confederacy. Now that is ignorance personified.


82 posted on 03/07/2016 6:09:04 PM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa

My ancestors. Took arms for there country, against a out right invasion. Of a war, they did not want but was forced upon by the Marxist Republicans, who sought Empire. From the wealth of the South


83 posted on 03/07/2016 6:10:13 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling 2016 to restore our God given unalienable rights and Liberty's)
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To: StoneWall Brigade
Hey, tell me something bozo, are you an American, or a Confederate? Me I'm an America. Not a a "Yankee''' or a‘’Northerner’’ Invasion? Seems to me the South opened fire first. Ft. Sumter ring a bell?
84 posted on 03/07/2016 6:13:13 PM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa; rustbucket; PeaRidge

The south open fire because major Anderson, and his ilk planned to lay sige. To Charleston, a ship carrying extra supplies. And, soldiers had been chased away. Multiple times Rust bucket and Pearidge both have posted time and time again, on what went down


85 posted on 03/07/2016 6:22:25 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling 2016 to restore our God given unalienable rights and Liberty's)
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To: jmacusa

The south was fighting against an encroaching government. If you like government dictating every fact of your like, move to North Korea or Cuba. Effing troll.

Curious to hear what Conservative princes you eapouse.


86 posted on 03/07/2016 6:28:36 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: mrsmel
Thank you. I know the Churchill comment appears in his six volume history of WW II. Your noting that may finally prompt me to research my copy of the third volume to find it.
87 posted on 03/07/2016 6:52:31 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: centurion316

I am with you and very content if I become an anachronism.


88 posted on 03/07/2016 6:56:49 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: StoneWall Brigade

yep, Anderson with 120 men, including 13 musicians was going to lay siege to Charleston. OBTW. Andersons artillery fuses were in the hands of the Charleston Confederates. Some siege that would have been.


89 posted on 03/07/2016 7:13:25 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: mrsmel
Here is that quote abbreviated from from chapter 12 of the third volume.

The attack on Pearl Harbor prompted Winston Churchill to say, "At this very moment I knew the United States was in the war, up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!....England would live; Britain would live; The Commonwealth of Nations and the Empire would live. How long the war would last or in what fashion it would end, no man could tell, nor did I at this moment care….Many disasters, immeasurable cost, and tribulation lay ahead, but there was no doubt about the end. I had studied the American Civil War, fought out to the last desperate inch. American blood flowed in my veins. I thought of a remark which Edward Grey had made to me more than thirty years before that the United States is like a gigantic boiler. Once the fire is lighted under it there is no limit to the power it can generate. Being saturated and satiated with emotion and sensation, I went to bed and slept the sleep of the saved and thankful".

90 posted on 03/07/2016 7:29:36 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: StoneWall Brigade
My favorite is Shiloh

My favorite battlefield monument at Shiloh is the very moving Tennessee Monument. It is a sculpture that depicts a wounded or dying unconscious young Confederate soldier whose hand is slipping away from a flag staff he had been carrying. The flag staff bears a Stars and Bars flag. Another Confederate soldier is kneeling behind him and taking the flag staff with both hands. A third Confederate soldier is standing guard beside them looking out in the distance with his rifle at the ready to protect them.

I have posted a picture of the monument before on TinyPic, but it has been removed. It probably offended somebody like the lady in the article above. I won't try to post it on TinyPic again. I'll do something better. Here is a link to dozens of photos of the monument:

Tennessee Monument at Shiloh

91 posted on 03/07/2016 7:32:36 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: Billthedrill

PFL


92 posted on 03/07/2016 7:46:51 PM PST by Batman11 ( All Muslims are not terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslim!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Oh please, stop the sh!t. Let me ask you a question, a simple yes or no: If the South had won the war would have freed the slaves?
93 posted on 03/07/2016 8:29:24 PM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: central_va

Crazy? Thanks General. Coming from some little ignorant troglodyte like you that’s a compliment. There’s a big word for you General, ‘’troglodyte’’, go look it up. Get an education about who and what your are.


94 posted on 03/07/2016 8:31:43 PM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Retain Mike

The Brits. Always willing to fight to the last American.


95 posted on 03/07/2016 8:33:12 PM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

They opened the ball first. Here’s a question for you, a simple yes or no: If the South had won the war would it have freed the slaves?


96 posted on 03/07/2016 8:35:40 PM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Just as I thought. You can’t answer the question I asked. Tells me all I need to know. You call yourself a conservative and yet you come to a conservative website venerating a bunch of Southern Democrats.


97 posted on 03/07/2016 9:11:00 PM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: jmacusa
mrsmel was interested in knowing more of the quote from Churchill I used in my first post about Confederate soldiers.

Winston Churchill commented concerning American entry into WW II that victory was then assured, because our Civil War demonstrated the tenacity required to defeat the Nazis.

98 posted on 03/07/2016 9:32:18 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Bull Snipe
yep, Anderson with 120 men, including 13 musicians was going to lay siege to Charleston. OBTW. Andersons artillery fuses were in the hands of the Charleston Confederates. Some siege that would have been.

No fuses? One wonders how Anderson was later able to fire all those canon balls at the Confederates for hours and hours in April.

On December 31, 1861, Major Anderson in Fort Sumter sent the US Government a communique that said "[We] can command this harbor as long as our Government wishes to keep it." [Source: "Days of Defiance" by Maury Klein, page 192]. On January 9, 1861 Major Anderson threatened South Carolina Governor Pickens that he [Anderson] would block any ship within range of Fort Sumter's guns from entering Charleston Harbor [Link].

This threat was made after South Carolina had fired on the commercial ship, the Star of the West, which had tried that same day to sneak 200 armed US soldiers hiding below decks with three months provisions and ammunition into Fort Sumter. The Star of the West had been warned off by a picket ship that fired across the Star of the West as it started to enter the harbor. The Star ignored the warning and continued on into the harbor only to be hit later by a couple of shots. It then turned around and left the harbor. It scraped bottom on the bar as it was leaving.

Governor Pickens replied that President Buchanan had been warned that an attempt to reinforce Fort Sumter would be viewed as an act of hostility. Pickens further said to Anderson that the state would defend its waters and repel such an attempt. Anderson didn't follow through on his threat to fire on ships in the harbor.

99 posted on 03/07/2016 9:35:07 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: jmacusa; wardaddy; stainlessbanner; rustbucket; PeaRidge

Yes they would have Slavery. Was already a dieing institute, in the South given the means of advancement. Of farm technology, the cost effectiveness. And, Religious reveals taking place in the South Slavery. Would have died out easily


100 posted on 03/07/2016 11:05:15 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling 2016 to restore our God given unalienable rights and Liberty's)
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