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To: Swordmaker

The reply to that:
“You can enter DFU mode and then install a new OS without entering a passcode. Classic trade-off between security and convenience. If your OS is hosed should the device be bricked? Right now Apple has said “no” but situations like this could persuade them to prioritize security even more. “

Someone is sure lying, also insulting and stupid.


367 posted on 03/02/2016 5:39:39 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith; DesertRhino; ctdonath2; palmer; SteveH; itsahoot; IncPen; Protect the Bill of Rights; ...
“You can enter DFU mode and then install a new OS without entering a passcode. Classic trade-off between security and convenience. If your OS is hosed should the device be bricked? Right now Apple has said “no” but situations like this could persuade them to prioritize security even more. “

Yes, you can, but you DO NOT GET ACCESS TO THE iPHONE or ANY DATA if the iPhone still contains any! All you get when you install a new OS on an iPhone or iPad in the DFU mode and it lets you in without a passcode, is the equivalent of a NEW, BLANK iPhone or iPad with only the default apps.

If it were as simple as you claim, people would be doing it every day and stealing data, using people's ApplePay by assigning their own fingerprints, etc. They simply are not. It ain't happening. People would be showing videos of how easy it is to do it on YouTube. They aren't. The few that are on YouTube claiming to do it are hoaxes with the guy using his fingerprint to pass the lock screen.

If you are successful in installing the OS on an iPhone or an iPad WITHOUT erasing the data in DFU mode, you WILL BE REQUIRED to enter the passcode or your AppleID—if you selected "Allow your AppleID to unlock this device" when you first started the system up—before you can leave the lock screen, otherwise you are going no further. IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE, mrsmith.

Why do you imply that I am lying about this, mrsmith?

I done this kind of thing for a living for my clients, because I've owned a business doing it for more than 35 years. It is something I am an expert at doing. Instead, you are listening to people who do not know what they are talking about, blithering about things they know nothing about, especially that LINUX idiot on Ars Technica, who knows a lot about open source software. but very little about privacy and security on Apple devices. His primary job is as an ARTIST. He doesn't make his living having to know anything about what he wrote about. Even the commentators on his article are stating his assertions are just WRONG.

YEs, someone is LYING and the people who keep repeating that you can get to anyone's data on an iOS device simply by installing a new OS using the DFU mode ARE stupid, after being told what I just told you. If they choose to be insulted by the truth, that is their problem and related to their apparently severe permanent mental condition.

If you continue to repeat the same lie, what does that make you?

380 posted on 03/02/2016 10:36:22 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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