[jessduntno]

“This is uncharted legal territory.”

Exactly. The amount of disinformation is staggering. It is not only as onerous that apple has made it sound, the big lie is that they are made to rewrite the ios. Simply not true. They are saying it would cost a fortune. Simply not true. The 53 billion dollar a year corporation has (inflated, in many opinions) 3-4 engineers X 2 weeks. The court said they would pay for it. The fact that a legally issued waarrant will not be complied with is the result of the new legal territory. But Apple is misrepresenting this horribly and the computer guys here know it. There can be no way around this. The 4th amendment can not be rplied to by simply saying “you can’t have it.” I think at some ponit it will have to be acknowledged that either a legal work around or constitutional change must be concluded. We can not survive the stripping of the constitution anymore than the “oppressive new power” that has not been proven. I think I understand and have told many here that it is both a tragedy and a curiosity that the one Justice that would have held a lot of sway with an opinion passed away days before this blew up.

[DiogenesLamp]

Exactly. The amount of disinformation is staggering. It is not only as onerous that apple has made it sound, the big lie is that they are made to rewrite the ios. Simply not true. They are saying it would cost a fortune. Simply not true. The 53 billion dollar a year corporation has (inflated, in many opinions) 3-4 engineers X 2 weeks. The court said they would pay for it. The fact that a legally issued waarrant will not be complied with is the result of the new legal territory. But Apple is misrepresenting this horribly and the computer guys here know it. There can be no way around this. The 4th amendment can not be rplied to by simply saying “you can’t have it.” I think at some ponit it will have to be acknowledged that either a legal work around or constitutional change must be concluded. We can not survive the stripping of the constitution anymore than the “oppressive new power” that has not been proven. I think I understand and have told many here that it is both a tragedy and a curiosity that the one Justice that would have held a lot of sway with an opinion passed away days before this blew up.

Well stated. You clarify the issue greatly in just a few words, though I fear your wisdom is falling mostly on deaf ears.

I've seen you around arguing the same position as myself, while most people take the "OH MY GOD !!! THE SKY IS GOING TO FALL IF APPLE HAS TO OBEY THE ORDER!" position.

Apple has done a lot to deliberately generate a lot of mass hysteria, and the only reason of which I can think that they might be doing this is because they are hoping enough political pressure will allow them to get away with it.

I guess it depends upon what sort of Federal Judge they end up with. Some of them just do not give a sh*t how big you are, or how much political pressure you can bring to bear, they are going to make you do what they want regardless of what you like.

Of course, at this point I think they have sort of made it personal, and now I think the Judge will be seen as backing down if she/he doesn't enforce their order.

Anyways, it's good to see that there are some of us who do not bend to every prevailing wind and take the popular position.