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Interesting as there is no mention of an Article V convention. The State is merely passing a referendum on asking Congress.

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1 posted on 02/25/2016 9:26:00 AM PST by Fhios
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To: Fhios; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; BillyBoy

Hell, no ! It was an abject failure when it was tried the last time. I don’t want crooked state legislators choosing their equally crooked pals to go to DC to loot what’s left of the country. We’d never get a Conservative Senator again.


28 posted on 02/25/2016 9:56:36 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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Thank you for referencing that article Fhios. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"In a bit of unusual news, the Utah Senate voted 20-6 to ask Congress to repeal the 17th Amendment of the Constitution."

This is a very strange statement.

Although Congress has the constitutional authority to propose new amendments to the Constitution to the states for ratification as evidenced by the Constitutions Article V, only the states have the constitutional authority to ratify an amendment proposed by either the states or Congress.

I can understand what Utah is doing if it really wants Congress to propose a repeal 17th Amendment to the states for ratification. Having Congress propose an amendment bypasses Article Vs requirement for a constitutional convention if the states want to propose and ratify a new amendment.

Also, note that all the states are in the poorhouse because corrupt Congress has, for many generations, been stealing state revenues in the form of unconstitutional federal taxes.

”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

It was originally the Senates job to kill unconstitutional House appropriations bills, bills which steal not only 10th Amendment-protected state powers, but also steal state revenues uniquely associated with those powers. But the ill-conceived 17th Amendment destroyed the firewall that the Senate provided.

The bottom line is that the corrupt Washington cartel will probably fight tooth-and-nail to keep the money-stealing 17th Amendment.

35 posted on 02/25/2016 10:08:33 AM PST by Amendment10
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Utah is on the cutting edge of everything. I may just have to move there.


36 posted on 02/25/2016 10:09:23 AM PST by Hildy
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Excellent! Howe many more do we need?


44 posted on 02/25/2016 10:24:50 AM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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If not for the Seventeenth Amendment Bob Bennett would still be the junior senator from Utah and not Mike Lee.


50 posted on 02/25/2016 10:27:41 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Good! Put that on the list for an Article V Convention of States.


52 posted on 02/25/2016 10:30:43 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Article V ping!


68 posted on 02/25/2016 11:34:51 AM PST by Jacquerie (To shun Article V is to embrace tyranny.)
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This would be outstanding!

Not sure the people are ready for this yet, but it would solve so many problems, hard to count them all.


84 posted on 02/25/2016 2:26:14 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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It would be a good start. Repealing the 16th would be another step in the right direction.


88 posted on 02/25/2016 2:39:52 PM PST by kosciusko51
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"The State is merely passing a referendum on asking Congress. "

The states do not need to beg. They have Constitutional means without Congress.

117 posted on 02/25/2016 5:44:56 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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If it would get rid of Hatch, I’d support it, but in Utah’s legislature’s case, they’d probably coronate him.

People who live outside Utah think the state is conservative, but you’ve never seen a bigger bunch of nanny staters than the Utah state legislature.


148 posted on 02/26/2016 7:47:14 AM PST by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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And the 16th while you’re at it.

5.56mm


170 posted on 02/27/2016 2:47:57 PM PST by M Kehoe
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