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1 posted on 02/22/2016 8:31:51 AM PST by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre
Boo hoo Robot. Go Trump.
2 posted on 02/22/2016 8:33:03 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: elhombrelibre

Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.

Obama told us he was born a British Subject.

Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?


3 posted on 02/22/2016 8:33:31 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: elhombrelibre

Rubio is an anchor baby.


4 posted on 02/22/2016 8:34:12 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/qa)
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To: elhombrelibre

From a pure strategery standpoint it’s smart.


5 posted on 02/22/2016 8:34:30 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: elhombrelibre

If it’s a slam dunk that neither Cruz or Rubio aren’t eligible then why hasn’t Trump filed the suit he’s been threatening and take both of them out at once?


7 posted on 02/22/2016 8:37:09 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: elhombrelibre

Whaaa! Why are we losing! Whaaa!


9 posted on 02/22/2016 8:37:48 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: elhombrelibre

He has always questioned the Canadian and the Cuban anchor baby not new.


16 posted on 02/22/2016 8:45:35 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: elhombrelibre

The only thing fading more quickly than winter is Cruz.

Since you have nothing positive to post to support your candidate, you post things against others.

“If mine can’t win, I’ll stop his competition any way I can!”, even if you have to support Rubio...

How pathetic.

And I’ll bet those of you that switch to Rubio in here will understand the cyclical purges much more personally.


23 posted on 02/22/2016 8:53:42 AM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: elhombrelibre

Yep... it’s time for Marco to stop repeating Trump’s talking points.

Cruz/Rubio 2016

- or -

Trump/Clinton 2016

A time for choosing indeed.


25 posted on 02/22/2016 8:54:04 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Well if the shoe fits and all that good stuff. LOL!


26 posted on 02/22/2016 8:56:48 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: elhombrelibre
The best thing that could happen is that the issue is settled once and for all. Obama, Cruz, and Rubio all have different situations, so there's no guarantee they'd all be settled the same way. The established definition should be concise so any person knows for sure what their status is. Rather than wait for the crisis spell it out now. Maybe the ONLY thing McCain ever did right was to get it established that born on a military base meant natural born citizen before he ran.

Republicans were absolutely derelict in not bringing the issue through the courts for a definition before Obama ran a second time. I was shocked when he first ran that there was no procedure to confirm that a candidate for US President was qualified to run.

If it isn't settled, you could run into crazy situations in the future where someone could be President of two countries at the same time, or someone brought up in an ISIS camp could be President, etc.

Trump is correct...settle it!

30 posted on 02/22/2016 9:00:03 AM PST by grania
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To: elhombrelibre

Well...he is an anchor baby.


32 posted on 02/22/2016 9:03:23 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: elhombrelibre

Article II Section 1 Clause 5:
No Person except a natural born Citizen,
or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,
shall be eligible to the Office of President;
neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years,
and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The clause “or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,” gives a strong clue to what was meant by “natural born Citizen”.

The founders were (almost) all born in the colonies that became the United States.
So if being “born on the land” determined natural born citizenship they would not have need the “at the time” clause.

The founders were (almost) all born to parents who were Subjects of the British Crown.
So if being born to foreigners, in the territory that became the United States, were enough for natural born citizenship they would not have need the “at the time” clause.

By this simple analysis of the Constitution using it own language and simple logic, one can conclude that a person born in the United States from foreign parents can not be a “natural born citizen”.
So Marco Rubio is clearly ineligible to be President of the United States under the original intent of the Constitution.

To handle the case of Ted Cruz, one has to look at what determined the nationality of parents at the time of the founding. All original evidence says that the wife took on the nationality of her husband.
All the evidence we have it that Ted Cruz’s father was a Cuban citizen at the time of Ted’s birth, and that both mother and father were legal residents of Canada.
So applying the original intent of the Constitution, then Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen of the United States, and therefore not eligible to be President.

Of course, if one wants to abandon “Conservative Principles” in this one instance, and say that the original intent is obsolete, then one could say they are both eligible.
But, to by honest, you would have to admit you were a “Liberal” and not a “Conservative”


34 posted on 02/22/2016 9:05:02 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: elhombrelibre
ad hominem venom

It's a legitimate legal question which can't be clearly answered from existing law.

The British law to which proponents of citizenship look to is statutory, not common law, and there was no like statute in the US when the Constitution was adopted. Based on the common law that pre-dated the statute, it's an open question. Those who dismiss the matter as settled (in either direction) are being intellectually dishonest.

38 posted on 02/22/2016 9:10:28 AM PST by PAR35
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To: elhombrelibre

Argue this

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208974841154442&set=pb.1418897946.-2207520000.1456164642.&type=3&theater


56 posted on 02/22/2016 10:10:11 AM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSE)
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To: elhombrelibre

Rubio was never another citizen before American. The second he popped out of his mama, he was American. And how soon did he get his USA BC? Probably right then, in an American hospital. He has FAR MORE CLAIM to NBC status than Cruz, who was not officially American until age 16.

The only question is, was Rubio an anchor baby, born to an illegal in this country? I don’t think so. I think his mom had a work permit or green card, so she was a legal resident. As long as that is true, that she was legally here, he was NBC and he proved it right after birth if he had a BC right away.


80 posted on 02/22/2016 2:47:27 PM PST by Yaelle
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