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Hopes rise for Trump rivals as South Carolina votes
The Hill ^ | February 20, 2016 | Niall Stanage

Posted on 02/20/2016 4:42:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

COLUMBIA, S.C. - Late-deciding voters may be moving away from Donald Trump and toward rivals Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio as South Carolina Republicans prepare to cast their ballots in Saturday's primary.

Two new polls show a sharp drop in the business mogul's once-comfortable lead, while his rivals have endorsements and traditional organizing power on their side.

It may not be enough. Almost all observers expect Trump to prevail in the end. But a narrow margin of victory would raise questions about his long-term prospects in the race.

And a stronger-than-expected showing from either Cruz or Rubio could give their campaigns a shot of momentum as the presidential race shifts into high gear.

"There is still a lot of fluidity," said Jim Guth, a political science professor at Furman University in the state. "My general sense is that Trump is experiencing some erosion of support."

Guth said he sees Rubio as the most likely beneficiary if Trump's support dips.

The Florida senator on Wednesday won the endorsement of South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who currently enjoys stellar approval ratings among Palmetto State Republicans. The two, together with the state's popular Sen. Tim Scott, have been holding events across the state this week.

Walter Whetsell, a GOP strategist in South Carolina who is not aligned with any presidential campaign, said he had been told that Rubio's camp is downplaying expectations, but they expect a very strong finish.

"I think they have everyone convinced that a strong third or a weak second [place] is a great victory for Marco Rubio," Whetsell said. "But what I've been told is that they think they are set for a strong second, and believe they are within striking distance of Trump. And that's what they're playing for."

Rubio backers got a boost when one poll released Friday put the Florida senator in second place, within three points of Trump and five points ahead of Cruz. But many political insiders poured cold water on that survey, which was conducted by OpinionSavvy, far from a household name in polling.

Skeptics also note that Rubio surges have been predicted a number of times before during this election cycle and have usually failed to materialize.

Cruz supporters were buoyed by a Friday NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll that showed the Texas senator in second, only five points behind Trump and eight ahead of Rubio.

Cruz on Thursday seized upon a national poll conducted by the same organization that found him ahead of Trump, the first time in months somebody other than the real estate mogul led a national poll. Speaking at a BBQ restaurant in the small town of Easley, Cruz told a standing-room-only crowd that "for the first time in many, many months there is a new front-runner."

Most national polls continue to give Trump a significant lead among Republicans nationally, though. And here in South Carolina, he continues to enjoy a comfortable lead on average.

But the variance in polling is stark. In the seven polls that were put into the field Monday or later, Cruz's support has been measured as low as 13 percent and as high as 23 percent. Trump's ratings range from 27 to 32, and Rubio's from 15 to 24. There is no clear pattern of any one candidate getting stronger or weaker as primary day dawns.

Amid such uncertainty, a strong ground game and the support of voters who can be relied upon to show up at the polls is crucial.

Cruz is thought to have an edge in those categories. He won the Iowa caucuses by outperforming his poll ratings, an achievement widely attributed to the strength of his organization.

He is trying to replicate that effort in South Carolina, with spokesman Rick Tyler telling The Hill earlier this week that volunteers in the state were averaging 10,000 door-knocks and 20,000 phone calls per day.

Cruz, who wears his religiosity on his sleeve, also has 300 Christian leaders in the Palmetto State who have endorsed him and are working on his behalf.

Cruz was pulling out all the stops Friday, holding a number of well-attended rallies in the company of "Duck Dynasty" star Phil Robertson.

"If those people go out and multiply [on Saturday], this Cruz thing is for real," said Whetsell.

But a number of other experts said there was reason to be cautious about the idea of a late, evangelical-powered Cruz surge.

Some noted that Cruz has got into a mudslinging match with Rubio, in particular, and that - whatever the rights and wrongs of each particular charge - this might hurt the Texas senator, who trades on an image of personal rectitude.

More generally, skeptics note that the importance of "ground game" is not quite so pivotal in a primary state as it is in a caucus state like Iowa. They also say that Palmetto State evangelicals are not a politically monolithic bloc.

"In the Iowa caucuses, evangelicals are more likely to coalesce behind one candidate. Evangelicals in South Carolina do not behave that way," said Scott Huffmon of Winthrop University in South Carolina.

"Once the candidates reach a certain bar, then it doesn't matter if you say 'Two Corinthians' rather than 'Second Corinthians,'" Huffman added, referencing a Trump misstatement.

In any case, if South Carolina replicates the national pattern, Trump - whose colorful personal life has for years been a staple of the New York tabloids - is leading among evangelicals. A CBS News poll earlier this week found that among likely Republican primary voters who identify as evangelicals, Trump had 33 percent support, with Cruz at 22 percent and Rubio at 13 percent.

For all the last-minute polling uncertainty, most experts believe the question will not be whether Trump wins, but by how much.

"I think he is going to come in first, but maybe a bit lower than some of the polls are showing," said Guth.

"Trump is almost assuredly going to take it," said Huffmon. "He is channeling the anger of conservative voters in South Carolina."


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
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1 posted on 02/20/2016 4:42:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Almost all observers expect Trump to prevail in the end. But a narrow margin of victory would raise questions about his long-term prospects in the race. “

Um, so what?

A win is a win.

I’m sure either of those two would love to be where Trump is.


2 posted on 02/20/2016 4:44:11 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Trump will dispose of Rubio is a half day


3 posted on 02/20/2016 4:46:13 AM PST by scooby321
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Not this "surging" crap again! The media is setting it up that anything under a 30 point margin will be a defeat for Trump. The only way Trump can be defeated, or at least a race made out of this, is if either Cruz or Rubio drops out and hope that their supporters go over to the one remaining.

This won't happen because both are too egotistical to concede that their end has come. The result is continued Trump victories.

4 posted on 02/20/2016 4:48:15 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the '17th amendment.)
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To: Russ

When Trump starts to fade will his ego keep him from pulling a 3rd Party run?


5 posted on 02/20/2016 4:52:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Cruz/Rubes “surge” as pushed by the marxist media has been debunked.


6 posted on 02/20/2016 4:54:12 AM PST by newfreep (TRUMP & <S>Cruz</S> 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Probably not...


7 posted on 02/20/2016 4:58:03 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the '17th amendment.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

LOL.

Trump’s RCP average in SC right now is higher than the average before the vote in NH.

Trump is more popular in the south than in New England.

Or maybe he should have gone after W sooner.

Cruz and Rubio are toast.


8 posted on 02/20/2016 4:59:26 AM PST by Helicondelta
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To: All

Check it out.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/marco_rubio/412491/report-card/2015

Rubio missed 35.4% of votes [highest of any Senator]

Highest: member to join bi-partisan legislation.

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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/ted_cruz/412573/report-card/2015

Cruz missed 23.6% of votes

Lowest: member to join bi-partisan legislation.


9 posted on 02/20/2016 5:02:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s a warmish day without rain in SC today. Turnout should be high.


10 posted on 02/20/2016 5:03:59 AM PST by Tax-chick (What could go wrong? (Except death ...)
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To: Tax-chick; All

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/SC-R

the South Carolina Republican Party shall conduct a statewide presidential preference primary on a date within two weeks after the New Hampshire Republican Primary or earlier if necessary to preserve South Carolina’s “First in the South” status. [South Carolina Republican Party Rules - Rule 11(b)(1)]

Saturday 20 February 2016: All 50 of South Carolina’s delegates to the Republican National Convention are allocated to presidential contenders in today’s South Carolina Presidential Primary. [Reference: The Rules of the South Carolina Republican Party as amended by 2015 South Carolina Republican Party State Convention]

21 district delegates are to be allocated to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the state’s 7 congressional districts: each congressional district is assigned 3 National Convention delegates and the presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in that district will receive all 3 of that district’s National Convention delegates. [Rule 11(b)(4)]

29 (10 base at-large delegates plus 16 bonus delegates plus 3 RNC delegates) at-large delegates are to be allocated to the presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in the primary statewide. [Rule 11(b)(5)]

Contunued....


11 posted on 02/20/2016 5:07:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Tax-chick

yep, unless it’s so nice people go do outdoor stuff instead.....

But overall, I think turnout around 700 thousand is about it...which is very high.


12 posted on 02/20/2016 5:09:17 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How many times is the liberal media going to try to convince us of the demise of Trump?

This tells us more about their prejudices, than anything else.

13 posted on 02/20/2016 5:11:46 AM PST by capt. norm (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat!)
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To: capt. norm

Where does this article say anything about his demise?


14 posted on 02/20/2016 5:14:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: C. Edmund Wright

One could vote in the primary on the way to or from outdoor stuff.


15 posted on 02/20/2016 5:17:29 AM PST by Tax-chick (What could go wrong? (Except death ...)
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To: Tax-chick

for anyone committed it is...but there’s a lot of Republican in SC who are really not that informed and not that ideological but who feel a sense of duty to maybe vote.

But I predicted an actual number - a big one - so we’ll see how close I get.


16 posted on 02/20/2016 5:18:30 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: All; Cincinatus' Wife

Please note that SC allocates ALL delegate votes, making no exception for ‘bonus’ delegates and the three RNC members.

The GOP, contrary to the representation sometimes made in the MSM, does not have superdelgates.

All ‘automatic’ GOP delegates are subject to state party rules which may bind their convention votes as they see fit.


17 posted on 02/20/2016 5:19:56 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

A high turnout prediction is consistent with what happened in Iowa and New Hampshire.

High of 64, rainy later, says my (Charlotte-area) forecast.


18 posted on 02/20/2016 5:20:29 AM PST by Tax-chick (What could go wrong? (Except death ...)
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To: VanDeKoik
Sure, a win in a win. But it's not winner take all so the margin of victorymatters.

The real question for the future is how Cruz and Rubio do relative to the other non-Trump candidates. If they do well, that will accelerate the consolidation of non-Trump voters. And that will be really important moving forward.

19 posted on 02/20/2016 5:21:29 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Look at the RCP average graph over the past week. Trump has taken a nosedive.
20 posted on 02/20/2016 5:21:36 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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