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Donald Trump in Triage Mode After Shocking Conservatives With Health Care Comments
The New York Times ^ | February 19, 2016 | Alan Rappeport

Posted on 02/19/2016 8:42:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

He has broken with many Republicans on taxing the rich, threatening trade wars and keeping Planned Parenthood alive. On Friday, Donald J. Trump faced criticism for an even bolder act of conservative heresy: embracing the core tenet of the Affordable Care Act.

Mr. Trump has to date offered only bits and pieces of his health agenda, generally presenting a vow to repeal "Obamacare" and replace it with "something great."

In a town-hall meeting hosted by CNN on Thursday night, he shared some more expansive views on the subject, and unlike most Republicans he did not call for removing the individual mandate that requires Americans to have health insurance.

Asked how people with pre-existing medical conditions would purchase insurance if the health law and the mandate were eliminated, Mr. Trump said, "I like the mandate."

"So here's where I'm a little bit different," he continued. "I don't want people dying on the streets."

Less than 24 hours later, Mr. Trump backed away from his remarks, proclaiming himself to be the fiercest opponent of the health law. It was the latest example of a candidate who has been impervious to inconsistencies again emerging unscathed from a misstep that would probably be damaging to anyone else....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; cutandpastebots; gangof14; obamacare; propagandadujour; singlepayer; tdscoffeclutch; tedspacificpartners; trump; usualsuspect; willthemudstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why would Trump saying I “like the mandate” shock anybody??? He’s never been a conservative for 60 years. For his whole life, he has been a part of and comfortable with the highly secular north east mentality, with its acceptance of the role of big government. He probably had no problem with Bloomberg’s banning of Big Gulps either.


21 posted on 02/19/2016 9:00:24 PM PST by mtrott
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To: catnipman

I saw the Town Hall it was clear that’s exactly what he meant.


22 posted on 02/19/2016 9:00:51 PM PST by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: Kenny

I have noticed that. Taking stuff out of context and weaving the most amazing gobblygook out of it.

This is why, when I see a report that Trump just called for nuking the world, I tend to grin and wait to see how it shakes out. I kind of mean it too. If Trump suggested that we give nuclear power plants to poor countries, the NYT would probably say that Trump just recommended nuking the world.


23 posted on 02/19/2016 9:01:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: mtrott

70 years, actually.

He’s been a free thinker and a redneck rassler. It shows.


24 posted on 02/19/2016 9:03:41 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Williams

I saw the town hall as well seems to me you heard what you wanted to hear, but that isn’t any real surprise.


25 posted on 02/19/2016 9:04:04 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: bigbob; 2ndDivisionVet
He didn't shock anyone who knew what he meant when he used the term "mandate", in the context of hospitals being mandated to care for people regardless of ability to pay.

Under what provision of the Constitution does it authorize Congress to compel hospitals to treat people who are not going to pay for their services?

I can't find it.

Perhaps Mr. Trump, that great constitutional scholar, can point it out for all of us.

Perhaps not.

26 posted on 02/19/2016 9:05:33 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Excuse me but he was talking about medical!!!


27 posted on 02/19/2016 9:05:42 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Jim Robinson
He has broken with many Republicans on taxing the rich, threatening trade wars and keeping Planned Parenthood alive. On Friday, Donald J. Trump faced criticism for an even bolder act of conservative heresy: embracing the core tenet of the Affordable Care Act.

I might add, he broke with many Republicans when he was exposed as an egregious liar and ultimate hypocrite in denying his actual support for the war in Iraq even as he accused others of lying.


28 posted on 02/19/2016 9:06:35 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Kenny; 2ndDivisionVet
Trump said he supported THAT mandate

And where in the Constitution does it authorize the Federal Government to institute THAT mandate?

Article, section, clause.

Take your time. I'll be here.

29 posted on 02/19/2016 9:07:34 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: P-Marlowe

It was a golden shackle attached to Medicare/Medicaid eligibility prior to the Obamacare fiasco, as best as I recall (and please be gentle if I’m off base about that).

Complain about the constitutionality of Medicare/Medicaid, but not about what’s tied to them if they somehow are thus.

One thing that sold Obamacare to hospitals was the supposed feature that they would never have to eat such bills again.


30 posted on 02/19/2016 9:09:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
True. Cruz is the worst though. I've never seen anything like it. Reminds me of a movie, Sweet Home Alabama where Reese Witherspoon dumps the mayor's son at the alter and the mom (Candice Bergen) tells her off.

Mayor Kate Hennings: "I've never met anyone so manipulative, so deceitful, and I'm in politics."

That's how I feel about Cruz, even for politics he's low.

31 posted on 02/19/2016 9:09:09 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: P-Marlowe

Trump wasn’t talking about healthcare at all. He thought he was talking about Obama and Reggie. That’s the Man date he liked. Geez, you Cruzers really like to lie.
/sarc


32 posted on 02/19/2016 9:10:09 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: nathanbedford

If you mush issues together enough you can call anybody a liar. Such accusations very rarely hold up when examined closely.


33 posted on 02/19/2016 9:10:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nobody is shocked.


34 posted on 02/19/2016 9:11:10 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: P-Marlowe

That’s a whole different conversation. Trump was accused of supporting the Obamacare mandate on every damn news channel, by every print source, and he didn’t do it.

Whether or not you agree with what he actually said isn’t the point. It’s the repeated false accusations by a supposedly responsible media that’s the worst. I remember once upon a time when journalists actually confirmed stories before going viral. Way back when.


35 posted on 02/19/2016 9:11:38 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Kit cat; 2ndDivisionVet
Excuse me but he was talking about medical!!!

He said he likes the mandate. No matter what kind of "mandate" he supports, it is not a constitutional position. The Federal Government has no constitutional authority to mandate that insurance companies pay for pre-existing conditions or that individuals must purchase health care.

Where are the constitutional conservatives on this forum that used to oppose such nonsense?

Is Donald Trump putting pods next to their beds at night?

MANDATES ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!

DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTS UNCONSTITUTIONAL MANDATES!!!

36 posted on 02/19/2016 9:12:40 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: Kenny

He’s a lawyer they are ALL lawyers what would you expect !!!!


37 posted on 02/19/2016 9:13:11 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: nathanbedford

Thank you for including your icon on all your posts. It makes them so much easier to skip.


38 posted on 02/19/2016 9:13:34 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I appreciate the New York Times being so concerned for Trump.

From what I can tell, Trump’s “triage” amounted to a tweet to point out to people that he was referring to the pre-existing conditions coverage (which is what Anderson Cooper asked about), and pointed out that he’s been for repealing Obamacare since forever.

I have a question. Since the GOPe, including Ted Cruz, have taken over Congress, what have they done to repeal Obamacare?

Nothing. They just all yell about Donald Trump at this point.

GO TRUMP! Bring the jobs back and shut all these Washington idiots up.


39 posted on 02/19/2016 9:13:35 PM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: Kenny

Right, the GOPe made him say he supported the mandate in Obamacare just like we can ignore his “unRepublican” healthcare views in the 60 minutes interview or his embrace of socialized medicine. Donald Trump specifically said he believes healthcare is an entitlement from birth. He’s in complete agreement with Bernie Sanders.


40 posted on 02/19/2016 9:14:02 PM PST by A Conservative Thinker (Ted Cruz 2016 - Trump in '04: "I probably identify more as Democrat")
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