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To: light-bulb

“Weakening security for the sake of a handful of individuals puts the rest of us at risk of breach, potentially worse.”

The 4th amendment protects innumerable people every day in courtrooms. The process for changing the Constitution is in place. You are arguing against the Constitution, not me. If you wish to make a legal reform that Justice Scalia considered the cornerstone of our entire system of law, a mechanism to obtain the truth, then knock yourself out. Free people have the right to obtain information from people during discovery, and the police have a right to look at any pertinent information through the legal process and others they believe have wronged victims whether they have an iPhone or not.

I don’t believe how many people misunderstand the importance of the 4th amendment. But, the Constitution is a remarkable document. If you wish to suspend your right to obtain valuable information, try and get it changed. You will be very, very sorry. The number of crimes that will be committed large and small will rise dramatically and there will be no control device for discovery in the pursuit of liars, thieves and yes...mass murderers. If that is your idea of freedom, you can get it. Or, just move to some third world shit hole that doesn’t live by the rule of law and bribery rules the court.


263 posted on 02/21/2016 5:31:18 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump, (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NY) /s)
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To: jessduntno

You and I agree on the importance of the 4th amendment. And the whole constitution is an amazing document.

My point is this. The government does NOT have a right to compel a citizen to perform an action if it’s involuntary. Period end. The exception is if it’s for a crime or punishment for that citizen, not a 3rd party.
It’s black and white in the constitution, namely the 13th amendment.

The government can have at it, they can bring their employees to the party, and conduct government work to brak that phone and derive intelligence. However, asking a third party and going so far as to compel them at the end of a barrel to work or serve the government is not a right the government possesses.

Apple does NOT work for, and is not a government run entity. They can not legally be made to hack a personally owned device of the scumbag. That would be involuntary servitude.


264 posted on 02/21/2016 5:47:26 PM PST by light-bulb (Plures efficimur quotiens metimur a vobis; semen est sanguis Christianorum)
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