Posted on 02/19/2016 2:19:39 PM PST by Kaslin
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RUSH: Now, remember when that happened in the Saturday night debate, a lot of people were shocked watching this. I immediately evolved a theory to explain it. Here you have the Republican front-runner -- and let's review. The Republican front-runner defended Planned Parenthood. "A great organization that does great things for women's health." It's almost a cliche!
It's what left-wing, Planned Parenthood defenders say.
They're an abortion mill!
They are an abortion factory!
The lion's share of their so-called "funding," their income, comes from performing abortion. They don't do mammograms, for example. The idea that Planned Parenthood is involved in women's health is largely a PR smokescreen to cover up the fact that they're an abortion factory. Well, Mr. Trump came out and said, "Planned Parenthood, they do great things," and that he didn't want to defund them because they do "great things for women's health." That's the Republican front-runner. I sat up when I heard this.
I said, "Whoa! Not even Romney said that. McCain hasn't even said that. What's this?" Then, as the debate went on, Mr. Trump accused Bush of lying about Iraq. They knew there weren't any WMD in there, and they still went to war anyway. "They knew," Trump said. "They knew." Trump said that he opposed the war in Iraq and that Bush was lying about that and lying about 9/11, that Bush didn't keep us safe, that the Twin Towers fell when Bush was in the White House. And he did that while assaulting Jeb, going after Jeb.
But, nevertheless, I said, "What is this? This is the first time I've heard any of this," and then it hit me. Well, it's an open primary, and in South Carolina, Democrats and independents can cross over and vote. I theorized what Trump was trying to get here was get some of those votes, because we had reports that Cruz was gaining ground. Internal polling data showed Cruz was two points behind. If that internal polling existed in the Bush campaign, Trump campaign knew it, too. So it was one of two things... Either Donald wanted to go get these additional voters one of two reasons.
Either to stave off what was happening with Cruz, or to just amass more and more votes to just hammer that final nail in the coffin and just be done with this and just win with a slam dunk. And then commentators on TV took me to task. They said, "No, Rush! Trump's not that diabolical, he speaks from the heart." I said, "There's nothing 'diabolical' about it. It's political strategy. All I'm saying is Trump is not surrounded by idiots. He's got some political pros in his organization and it could be well they strategized to do this."
Because it's not often that you hear the Republican front-runner anywhere defend Planned Parenthood and destroy a revered former Republican president. Bush is revered in South Carolina with 83% approval. You just don't hear that. So there had to be a reason. And then Trump yesterday -- or maybe two nights ago -- now when he's on MSNBC during that town hall, admitted he's going to get crossover votes. He was going to get Democrats and independents. I said, "A ha! My theory was right on the money! That's exactly what they were doing. That's why Trump said that."
Then there were a couple of additional things, such as Trump saying that he's going to rewrite the electoral map because of so many people -- so many crossovers in other states -- are gonna end up supporting him that Wisconsin is going to be in play, Pennsylvania is going to be in play, Michigan is going to be in play. And then last night, Donald Trump... Well, let me just read to you from the Wall Street Journal: "Donald Trump on Thursday appeared to try to walk back his claims that the administration of former President George W. Bush lied about the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to justify the war.
"During a town hall-style event hosted by CNN, when the Republican front-runner was asked about the comments he made during last weekend's GOP debate, Mr. Trump said: 'I'm not talking about lying, I'm not talking about not lying. Nobody really knows why we went into Iraq.' He added. 'Bottom line: there were no weapons of mass destruction. ... Whether he lied or not, he went into Iraq,' Mr. Trump said. 'It was a horrible decision.'" And so the Wall Street Journal and others in the Drive-By Media are now trying to say that Trump is walking it back.
Now, if Trump is walking it back, there goes my theory. Why walk it back if you're trying to attract Democrat crossover votes tomorrow in the South Carolina primary? Maybe you think you've already done it and you've succeeded. You got your message out. You can make a show and play at walking it back here to maintain your Republican vote. I still could be right about this, is the bottom line. Now, they think they have caught Trump in another... I don't know what you'd call it. Flip-flop?
Because apparently Mr. Trump is saying (and you probably heard it) that he opposed the war in Iraq always forever, and people in the media said, "That's great, but we can't find any quotes. We can't find any evidence of you saying that." Trump said, "That's okay, you shouldn't. I wasn't in politics back then. I was in business. I'm a businessman back then. I wasn't being quoted for things I said as a businessman. Of course you wouldn't. But I just want to tell you: I opposed the Iraq war." But somebody found a tape of Trump on Howard Stern back in 2002.
Stern said to Trump, "Are you in favor of invading Iraq?" and Trump said, "Yeah, I guess so. I wish the first time it was done correctly." Which is an excellent point, by the way. If... do you heard what happened in Gulf War One? We won that war in 2-1/2 days. That was the Arnold Schwarzenegger -- I'm sorry, the Norman Schwarzkopf victory. You remember what happened with that? We had the Iraqi Army on the run. They were in full retreat. The Republican Guard and the "elite" troops, they were on their way back to Baghdad.
Schwarzkopf wanted to wipe them out. He just wanted to end it. Go all the way back to Baghdad, get Saddam, and be done with Iraq. Colin Powell said, "No. No, no, Mr. President, Mr. Bush. Don't do it! You will look like you are using excessive force, unnecessary force. The war is over.
The war is won and besides," said General Powell, "Look, the UN mandate authorizing the use of force does not include getting Saddam. It just says get Iraq out of Kuwait and recapture the oil wells for Kuwait that Saddam took," and eventually set on fire.
That happened to be true.
The United Nations resolution that George H.W. Bush put together did not include regime change in Iraq, did not include taking Saddam out. But Schwarzkopf said, a la Patton, "What the hell are we stopping for? Let's just keep going! Rroot the guy out and let's be done with this forever." Colin Powell said, 'Nope, nope. The optics won't look good." And they weren't. The optics were the Iraqi Army were on the run, surrendering every day on TV, weaving white flags. They were shoeless, they were shirtless and they were on the road back to Baghdad and Colin Powell said, "You can't continue this!
"You have to just end this and let them get back home," and that's what we did. And Saddam survived to once again start threatening and bellowing about weapons of mass destruction and gave us reason to go back in. Ancient history. But nevertheless, Trump is right when he says, "I wish the first time it was done correctly." What he means by that is that we'd just kept going and taken Saddam out. But the point is that in 2002 he did say he was for invading Iraq. So there's... I don't know if it's a flip-flop, but people found evidence contrary to what he's been saying.
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Like I said you want a slavishly obedient Lap Dog Media that licks the butt of government like it’s a dog treat vs. a feared Watchdog Media that protects We the People as the Founders intended.
I think you would like living in North Korea. The media is very Lap Dog and Slavish to their Lord and Savior Kim Jung-un.
Why do you limit it to today? ALL this week Rush has been milking that WMD thing by Trump for all it is worth. ALL the feakin’ week. Numerous times a day. Trying is best to harm Trump, and all the while claiming to be a disinterested analyzer.
Well, he certainly lost me as a listener today. Screw him and the horse he rode in on.
By the way, did you hear the caller, a snide, snotty, POS, probably taking down, 25,000 a year and said that Cruz could harm Trump by calling him a “loser”? One of the characteristics that to him made Trump a loser was his divorces. Limbaugh probably has had more divorces than Trump.
I only commented on today because I turned him off for the past couple of weeks due to his Cruz/Rubio rumpswabbery. I tuned in a few times today to see what he was talking about, and he sounded like he has a severe case of TDS.
The caller with the Trump “loser” reference prompted me to turn off the radio.
Trump went far easier on Willard Romney.
Are you lonely?
OK, Drudge has no news.
I’m not gullible or fooled.
I’m honest about what’s being said. I would treat you the same way.
There’s a difference between saying “they lied” and “Bush lied”. If Trump didn’t say expressly that Bush lied then don’t say Trump said “Bush lied.”
It's a form of expression used everyday Kaslin. Deal with it.
Bush also discounted the reports (later supported beyond reasonable doubt) that Salman Park in Iraq was used as a training facility for airline hijackers.
BTW, Bush and everyone else on the planet believed that Saddam had WMDs. And the post-war evidence reveals that he was probably correct. I'll bet you didn't even know that--because the mainstream media never covered it.
But all of this is beside the point. What matters is that the Silberman Report showed with riveting evidence that Bush never lied at any point about the justification for attacking Iraq. The claim "Bush lied, people died is itself" a lie used by the Alinskyites to mobilize their radical base, to inflame their useful idiots against a Republican POTUS.
(The "Hands Up--Don't Shoot" mantra is typical of the way the Democrats make loud, angry, false accusations in spite of all evidence. Alinsky taught his devotees that the truth doesn't matter. All that matters is causing your opponent damage.)
Rush Limbaugh has an interesting take on Trump's weird statement in the SC debate. He suggested today that Trump was fully aware that his accusations against Bush were false. Why would Trump do this? Well, Rush pointed out that SC is an open primary! In short, Rush thinks Trump was deliberately using the Dem's well-known false talking points concerning President Bush to woo crossover Dems to beat Cruz and Rubio.
Rush believes that Trump is a win-at-all-costs guy. (Unfortunately, when he wins, he does so at the cost of his honor.)
So, take your choice: Either Trump is an ignoramus or he is a lying, pandering scoundrel.
Your second supposition is correct.
However, your first sentence, saying the Bush administration "lied in terms of misrepresentation" is not clearly correct. Colin Powell's prissy complaints mean nothing. He is the worst sort of RINO. He quite ordinarily votes for Dems--and he hates Bush.
EVERYONE in the intelligence world believed that Saddam had WMDs. And the available evidence that came out in testimonies before the Senate Committee argues pretty strongly that Saddam did have WMDs--but that Saddam got most of them shipped to Damascus before we invaded Iraq.
only a dork would think your logic of threading the needle there is anything but pamper filling bullshit.
See Edmund write. Write, Edmund, write.
part of that is that due to his mancrush on Trump, Rush cannot admit that Trump is a reflexive liberal.....
rush laid only kid gloves on Trump, and mostly on the Obama Care mandate.
I guess Free Republic now is obama care mandate loving central.
You will be proven gullible and fooled.....it’s just a matter of time.
Well here’s the exact quote during the debate:
“They lied, they said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none and they knew that there were none.”
And to say they knew there were none is really putting the icing on the cake so to speak.
So yes, Trump said Bush lied and did so in the most extreme way.
Wow.
Who were “they”?
The Bush administration perhaps? And the Bush administration is led by who? And who sets its agenda?
Talk about parsing words...
Trump is basically saying Bush got thousands of people killed on a known lie. And you’re okay with that...
Nothing like oversimplification to make a point.
Many here at FR are well aware of Trump's shortcomings, yet still support him. His stance on illegal immigration and his willingness to fight, rather than lie down, are what propel his candidacy. No other candidate has shown the ability to change the discussion as Trump has.
Maybe the wheels will come off his campaign. We will know more tomorrow evening.
It doesn’t matter what he said 10 seconds ago, stop living in the past!
Sorry, I was engaged in two different thoughtful, mature discussions with two other Trump supporters in other threads.
I totally missed your cute little snarky non-response.
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