Posted on 02/16/2016 9:42:51 AM PST by zeestephen
A new poll shows 38 percent of Donald Trump's supporters in South Carolina wish the South had won the Civil War...Seventy percent of Trump backers also believe that the Confederate battle flag should still be flying over their state capitol.
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Another message of no worth from you.
if the south won the war we woulsn’t have to get ris of the Yankees that are the source of almost all our national problems now
GOPe = yankees
Bernie = yankee
Shall we just agree that neither of us has the least bit of respect for the other and leave it at that?
If the South had won we wouldn't be suffering from the administrations of Woodrow Wilson, LBJ, Jimmy Carter, or Bill Clinton. Y'all would.
? Sure. Even so, who cares?
How many Obama supporters think he is a real Christian?
Have you ever bothered to read South Carolina's "Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union"?
It doesn't beat around the bush about why the slave States were leaving the Union.
It requires no infidelity to the notion of a Constitutionally limited Republic to acknowledge the slave states left, by their own admission, because of the hostility within the Union to slavery.
The other State legislatures declarations are also available, if you're curious what they have to say on the subject as well.
My gosh what a stupid question. Just want to stir up hatred and divide people.
After secession, all the goods were shipped directly to England, on English ships, and very little goods returned through New York and Boston.
Before secession, most imported goods had been reshipped South, with either the direct Southern customer paying the tariffs, or the middle men paying the tariffs and then adding that cost to the price of the items that they shipped south.
Without Southern customers, all of that would have dried up, and the supporting shipping, banking, storage, cartage, and insurance businesses would see their volumes decline by more tghan 50%.
The Northern states would not have enough cash to buy goods, and their trade would dry up.
During the first few months after secession, the volume of imports at the port in New York declined by 57%
I wonder what the percentage is for the others running ? Oh its only those voting for Trump. Lol
After this having previously been mentioned about a zillion times, what makes you think one more iteration is going to allow her to grasp this concept?
During the first few months after secession, the volume of imports at the port in New York declined by 57%
Do you have a readily available source on this? This is exactly what I expect would happen if the bulk of US imports depended on Southern Agriculture product exports.
If all those Europeans were shipping goods to New York in exchange for Northern goods and products, imports should have remained steady.
Had shipping to the South not been interdicted by a Union Blockade, I expect New York, Boston and Philadelphia would have gone begging.
The war was about Money. It was about the North Eastern GREED, dressed up in the robes of a pretend moral cause, which for some reason could never get directed at any Union Slave states.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Confederacy enact a cotton embargo that cut off exports from mid-1861 until late 1862? So really not a whole lot would have been shipped to the UK. And with the war it's a safe bet that what trade there was would have been in UK ships. As for very little returning through New York and Boston I believe that the overwhelming majority of U.S. trade would have gone through those two ports, as it did prior to the rebellion. And enough was passing through those two ports so that by the end of FY1863 tariff revenue was well over $100 million.
Before secession, most imported goods had been reshipped South, with either the direct Southern customer paying the tariffs, or the middle men paying the tariffs and then adding that cost to the price of the items that they shipped south.
If the picture that DiogeneseLamp posted is any indication most of those goods were landed, and the tariffs paid, in Northern ports. Comparatively little was paid by the direct Southern importer since very little was landed in Southern ports.
Without Southern customers, all of that would have dried up, and the supporting shipping, banking, storage, cartage, and insurance businesses would see their volumes decline by more tghan 50%
Again if the tariff revenue of 1863 is any indicator shipping certainly recovered within a year or two. As for banking, insurance, etc. I would agree that those companies which did most of their business with Southern producers would have seen their business dry up.
The Northern states would not have enough cash to buy goods, and their trade would dry up.
But that didn't happen.
During the first few months after secession, the volume of imports at the port in New York declined by 57%
And by 1863?
I thought the USA outlawed the importation of slaves from Africa and the Caribbean in 1808.
Is that not correct?
In any event, by 1820, the British Navy had essentially shut down all African slave trade to North America, and shut down most of the African slave trade to South America.
I believe that is correct.
The one thing they can never let any person or state do is go there own way in peace.
That’s why I thank God I live here.
If you’re still in Austin you don’t get to speak you’re mind often.
;-)
God Bless
It seems to me that a peaceful political separation between the North and South would not have resulted in significant damage to the Northern economy.
Unless British shippers and bankers were charging substantially less than Northern shippers and bankers, what reason would the Southern exporters have for boycotting Northern businesses?
So, if that’s correct, I completely do not understand the debate between you and Diogenes.
If USA slave importation stopped in 1808, which is my understanding, why does the different language in the two Constitutions even matter 52 years later?
The Zeitgeist Stalinist at the commie Hill is shocked that the descendants of General Robert E. Lee’s Army in South Carolina wished that the south had been victorious.
It takes a special kind of completely unconscious leftist idiot to scribble at the Hill. The Hill is a training ground for wannabe totalitarians to move up on the media Goebbel’s totem. I give you Chuck (FU) Todd as one example.
The difference between constitutions was with PAR35 and myself. The debate between DiogenesLamp and I is more for comic relief.
I didn’t change my Freeper name- but I got out of Austin in 2011 and now live in the Hill Country, thank God.
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