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To: catnipman

This site sure has changed in the 15 years I have been ehre.

It used to support conservatives and bash liberals.
But instead the majority are bashing a conservative and supporting a New York liberal. I’d say we conservatives have finally lost everything.


6 posted on 02/15/2016 10:14:47 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy

I agree. What a shame. No wonder we can’t complete the fundraisers on time.


12 posted on 02/15/2016 10:16:25 AM PST by Dacula (Southern lives matter!)
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To: shelterguy

“This site sure has changed in the 15 years I have been ehre.”

That seems to be today’s talking points by the Cruz supporters.


20 posted on 02/15/2016 10:18:47 AM PST by odawg
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To: shelterguy

“I’d say we conservatives have finally lost everything.”

Yeah. It’s embarrassing.


22 posted on 02/15/2016 10:19:22 AM PST by Durbin
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To: shelterguy

I know. It’s crazy.


40 posted on 02/15/2016 10:25:02 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: shelterguy

Yes, it has, and not for the better.


43 posted on 02/15/2016 10:25:47 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: shelterguy

“This site sure has changed in the 15 years I have been ehre.”

A lot of people feel burned by the Republican establishment. For six years, the GOP held the white House (Bush) and control of both houses of Congress. For the past two years, control of both houses once again. We’ve heard a lot of great “conservative” rhetoric, much more reliably conservative than what Trump is saying. But what did they do? Worse than nothing - they governed like liberals.

After that, you’re still looking to hear conservative rhetoric, and you’ll be satisfied? Not me, that’s why I’m looking as someone who’s results-oriented, and not part of the establishment in-crowd. Trump.


50 posted on 02/15/2016 10:29:03 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: shelterguy

“I’d say we conservatives have finally lost everything.”

Not everything.

After all, so many of us still remember how the heroic conservative Republican-led Congress stood up to Obama and stopped his agenda by passing a budget that eviscerated his illegal immigration policies, eliminated the energy-destroying EPA, eliminated the Marxist propaganda Education Department, eliminated the job-destroying Labor Department, eliminated the racist Civil Rights Commission, defunded the FCC until they give back control of the Internet to private industry, defunded Obamacare, defunded enforcement of 99% of Obama”s regulations and Executive Orders. It was a great day for America when that happened, when conservative Republicans stopped Obama’s agenda cold.

Given all of these amazing accomplishments by the conservative Republican party, it’s no wonder that the only thing that Freepers and rank-and-file Republicans everywhere care about is getting some more of them elected so that they can continue applying their conservative Republican principles to such good effect.


55 posted on 02/15/2016 10:31:34 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: shelterguy

“This site sure has changed in the 15 years I have been ehre.”

You exaggerate your tenure. Cruz supporter. There it is.


65 posted on 02/15/2016 10:34:18 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all sarmed conservatives.)
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To: shelterguy

>> I’d say we conservatives have finally lost everything.

Some would say that. But the rest of us understand that, while fundamental principles never change, the landscape in which we operate has changed dramatically since 1980. Progressives will drive America left because they have developed a game plan that does that very well. Their way works because they accept small advances as a win and recover from setbacks easily. We keep expecting to get pushed back further and further and then throw a Hail Mary (i.e. elect the perfect candidate) and win the game.

The people we elect to Congress to hold the line have not done their duty and Obama marches from win to win. Cruz is part of this “talk, lose, whine” contingent that we count on in Congress.

If we lived in a nation that leaned right (which it used to but doesn’t anymore), then the minutiae of the Ten Commandments in a court room would be a hill to fight for. But, we have laws and NO ONE would be convicted in a court of law for violating a Commandment (because we have laws), so they really are there as a decoration. Learn from the Left: don’t fight for the forlorn hope. Find a new way and fight for that. Keep changing your attack to force them to adapt. They know how to win against your 1988 game plan.


86 posted on 02/15/2016 10:43:11 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: shelterguy

No, we just don’t support a lying, deceitful, creepy, Elmer Gantry, candidate.


95 posted on 02/15/2016 10:47:27 AM PST by heights
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To: shelterguy
"I'd say we conservatives have finally lost everything."

Of course we have. And if you think putting a Cruz out there is going to change that I'd say you are nuts. Trump neutralizes the dems entire playbook, while addressing conservative issues that all agree on. Border/national security, immigration, gov waste, jobs. You want to have something left to build on? Get on board.

158 posted on 02/15/2016 11:32:45 AM PST by moehoward
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To: shelterguy
But instead the majority are bashing a conservative and supporting a New York liberal. I’d say we conservatives have finally lost everything.

I think it comes down to this: After we the Tea Party gave the R's the reigns in the House and Senate and got stabbed in the back (in mire ways than one) folks are tired of it and have zero trust in what ANY Politian has to say or promise.

Trump is different. Though not a 100% conservative he is conservative on this issues that need to be addressed to turn this country around....and many are willy to give it "one last roll of the dice"

Many claim Trump is in it for himself, that in a way can be viewed as with his ego, he wants to go down in history as a great leader of this country and the one who turned it around.

I don't criticize him for being a self promoter which many think is a negative, far from the truth. WE are all self promoters.

You didn't get a job, wife, girlfriend etc by not promoting your self, Trump is at a completely different level is all.

IMO, DC and the elitists are the problem with this country, Trump can destroy that.

I think Cruz could too, but to a lesser extent.

JMHO

205 posted on 02/15/2016 1:45:09 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: shelterguy
The truth is, FR has seen brutal primary battles before, where everybody thinks their guy is the only true conservative and people who support someone else are the devil.

Lighten up Francis.

236 posted on 02/16/2016 1:01:42 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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