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To: Political Junkie Too
All that information, yet no Smoking Gun that would convince the American Public. Such is life living in the FR Bubble.

The same number of People believe that there were no WMD'S believe that Obama was Born in Hawaii. In other words, most people don't believe that Iraq had any “new” WMD’s, only the leftover Gas he used against Iran and his own People years before the second Gulf War.

Bush Advisor Condoleza Rice eluded to Iraq having Nuclear Devices. She didn't say it outright, but any discussion you have with people that were against the Iraq War bring it up saying Bush lied about Saddam having Nuclear Weapons. Don't even get me started on the Colin Powell U.N. presentation. It became a festering Dog and Pony Show when all those supposed Weapons never showed up.. Nobody knows or cares that Iraq was in violation of 17 U.N. Resolutions or that they delayed and lied about complying. Most People think that the War was just because of the WMD's, which it wasn't. The point is, all that matters is what the Public thought, not what the Bush Administration thought. They never sold the War to the Public enough to overcome the rabid voices railing against it. Nobody ever mentions that then Senator Hillary Clinton Voted to Invade Iraq on two separate occasions. Their excuse is that Bush lied to her, because she is the smartest Woman in the World you know. In that case, Trump has it over Hillary because he never supported the Iraq War in the first place and he has stated his reasoning. We here can jump up and down saying there were WMD's, but most of the Voting Public thinks it's a bunch of bull, like it or not. Does anyone here remember the embarrassing Video that the Bush White House showed at the White House Correspondents Dinner? In the Video, Bush's Chief of Staff is looking under the White House Furniture for Iraq's WMD's? I certainly do, and it was a stupid tone deaf attempt at humor while we had Soldiers dying over there. Whether you like or hate Trump, he is the only one saying that we shouldn't have gone in, but since we did we should have finished the Job instead of just pulling out. That isn't a Code Pink argument as many here are trying to pin on Trump. Then again, there is more hateful BS between the two factions than I can ever recall seeing here. I will Vote for the eventual Republican Nominee whoever it may be against the DemoncRat Nominee. No doubt in my mind. For all those that disagree, you can join the FR Club that wouldn't Vote for the Republican Nominee in 2008 or even worse, 2012 because he didn't have a Pure Conservative Pedigree. Well, here we are today. Obama, you know the guy that was the same as Romney or even better, will have a shot of replacing Justice Scalia, throwing the SCOTUS to the Liberal Hyenas. I predicted as much back in 2012 and Posted numerous times that no matter how much Romney was disliked as the Republican Nominee in the General Election, we had better get him in or lose the SCOTUS. Viola, the day has arrived and the Gutless Cowards in the Senate will fold like a cheap suit when Obama puts forth his next Communist Judge. We would have had a chance with Romney, but now we have no chance and will end up having a Court that regards the Constitution as anything but a hindrance to Progressive Policies. Everyone here can continue to beat the crap out of each other over their choice of Nominee and it will change nothing. I wonder how a President Clinton or Sanders will do in Office with a Supreme Court that will rubber stamp anything they do? Yeah, Romney would have been so much worse that Obama. Sorry for the rant. Reading the pathetic Debate Thread got me going. We had better pull it together and get behind the eventual Nominee or you can kiss your Country goodbye for good. Your Children and Grandchildren will pay the price, not you or I. We have the gift of remembering what was, they won't have that same opportunity. Carry on...

2,956 posted on 02/13/2016 10:08:38 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I formatted the Post, don’t know why it bunched back up, my apologies.


2,958 posted on 02/13/2016 10:09:47 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Pakistan has many more nuclear WMD’s.

North Korea has many more nuclear WMD’s

So why attack Iraq with questionable proof of
CHEMICAL WMD’s?

Now Iraq is gone.
Now Libya is gone.
Now Yemen is gone.
Now Syria is gone.
ISIS is chopping heads off of Christians.

And we $4,000,000,000,000 borrowed which we can not
ever pay back because we have chronic budget deficits.

I can nor think of a dumber foreign policy than
invading Iraq, since Osama was not in Iraq none of
the 911 terrorists were Iraqi’s.


2,975 posted on 02/13/2016 10:29:10 PM PST by entropy12 (Who is the ONLY candidate NOT controlled by Goldman Sachs & CFG & COC & Robert Mercer?)
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To: Kickass Conservative; Political Junkie Too; caww; SunkenCiv; 2ndDivisionVet; All

My son, who is currently in Special Forces, arrived in Saudi Arabia 7 days after the August 1990 invasion of Kuwait. In Jan. 2003 when it was clear Bush would be attacking in Iraq and Gen. Shinsecki(sp?) was catching heck because he wanted around 350,000 troops and Bush/Rumsfeld were going with 170,000, I called him and asked how many he thought we should be sending. He said based on his experience in Iraq that it should be around 450,000. After a year, Bush’s hand picked Iraq manager said we should have had 500,000. [So now I am urging my son to run for President. ;-)]

The opinion of many was that the war was fought because “He tried to kill my Daddy.”—Bush. And to make lots of money for VP Cheney who, if I recall correctly, had about $23 million in Halliburton stock. At any rate, Bush had to go when he did if he was going to go at all. A spring assault was needed before the punishing heat of summer. Baghdad temperatures of 114 f, and fighting in heavy chemical warfare gear??? If he waited until after that he would only have been able to fight in the last year of his administration. Any obvious “mistake” like loosing, would have heavily affected the next Presidential election. It is only now, with the historical perspective of time, that the bad results of jumping into this war without finishing the one in Afghanistan become clear. Subsequently, my son went to Afghanistan in 2006 and 2013. I have one question for the Bushes father and son. What happened to the CIA maps of Bora Bora when we apparently had Bin Laden trapped there? Were they deliberately lost so that Bin Laden would escape and Bush/Cheney would have an excuse to continue the two wars, running up our debt and killing our brave young soldiers.


3,183 posted on 02/14/2016 1:11:19 PM PST by gleeaikin
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