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To: SubMareener

Unless he was a naturalized citizen it is. He was not naturalized, therefore a natural born citizen - there is no other (3rd) type.

Show me the naturalization paperwork and I’ll believe it’s a problem. ...except nobody can, because he was never naturalized.


282 posted on 02/13/2016 10:54:54 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic

Look, it is looking more and more as if Ted Cruz came to the United States illegally in 1974, and no paperwork was filed to establish his US Citizenship until 1986 (IIRC), and that was under the Naturalization Act in force at the time. He renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014, after he was already serving in the United States Senate.

Now if Ted Cruz shows the paperwork that was filed in 1986 to allow him to get a US Passport, we can settle the matter of both his citizenship (yes) and whether he was a natural-born American (no). If he doesn’t show the paperwork, than this remains in legal limbo.


290 posted on 02/13/2016 11:00:25 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: fuzzylogic

While you are correct that Cruz never needed to be naturalized, it’s not so simple.

1. We have no perfectly clear definition of natural born citizen and until we do, these issues will be fraught with argumentation.

2. He was not officially American until he was 16. Though he COULD have been, since birth, he wasn’t officially. That is bad optics for the presidency.

3. Ted Cruz knows 1 and 2, above. He has chosen not to address those two points honestly. That speaks directly to his character.


298 posted on 02/13/2016 11:04:59 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: fuzzylogic; SubMareener; Bob434

See bob434’s post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3396601/posts?page=275#275

It further states that just because someone doesnt file for CoC, (form N-600) doesnt mean they arent a full citizen, it infact states that they do not have to go through a naturalization process


569 posted on 02/13/2016 7:53:12 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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