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No Deal: How Does Trump Plan to Reform America's Healthcare System?
National Review ^ | 02/08/2016

Posted on 02/08/2016 7:27:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/08/2016 7:27:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Get rid of ObozoCare...................


2 posted on 02/08/2016 7:28:21 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger

Step 1. WIN the election.


3 posted on 02/08/2016 7:30:11 AM PST by QuigleyDU
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To: SeekAndFind
It's all about compulsory purchase. Everything else has always been taken care of before...through Medicaid or other programs.

Every hospital emergency room said "you will not be turned away."

4 posted on 02/08/2016 7:30:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

Does National RINO Review do anything but put out Trump hit pieces? I know they’re faltering, but is this really their plan to stay afloat?

Their reputation is now that of NYT.


5 posted on 02/08/2016 7:30:31 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Red Badger

I still say the only reason that was created was to bring communism through the back door. If they wanted socialized medicine why pay for it at all? No instead their plan all along was to get the costs so high that the majority of people couldn’t afford it while at the same time raising the fines through the roof for not buying it until it got to the point where millions of people would be indebted to the government for massive sums. Then the government pulls the rug out and says “A hah, you own us a fortune in fines and you can’t pay it” and they use that as an excuse to take everything you own. Redistribution, collectivism, communism 101, the government owns everything and everybody. To me that’s exactly what is going to happen if Hitlery is elected.


6 posted on 02/08/2016 7:36:19 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Can we please kill the guy already who invented the saying "My bad"?)
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To: SeekAndFind
I will admit ... I would like to hear more definition about Trump's plans


Having said that ... I think it's simple and it is the simplicity he doesn't want to reveal because, well ... it makes all of us look like assholes


Jobs


That's it and that's ALL of it

SS? ... jobs

The economy? jobs

Taxes? .. jobs

Foriegn policy (which almost always translates into $ from us going somewhere else for whatever reason ..jobs

Crumbling infrastructure? .. jobs


The more I think about it, the more I believe, if Trump can get us making steel and shoes and clothing and (whatever) ... we can have full employment, (drop the rate but keep the principal taxes), and cut government intrusion (presence/power) in ordinary American lives ... we will have eliminated 90% of our problems

Even the so-called homeless could lace up widgets if there was a widget lacing factory in someplace city, USA.


He negotiates deals that brings work IN to America

7 posted on 02/08/2016 7:40:19 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Jane Long

RE: Does National RINO Review do anything but put out Trump hit pieces?

As a Ted Cruz supporter, I don’t mind hit pieces on my candidate, as long as the issues are discussed.

Healthcare is an important issue. Trump has said this and that on it. We’d like to pin him down once and for all.


8 posted on 02/08/2016 7:41:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

How about looking a part of Donald Trump’s actual proposals on healthcare?
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As I’ve said, I’d like to see a private insurance system without artificial lines drawn between states. We need to get rid of those lines and let people and companies cross state lines to purchase the best plan for them. The government should get out of the way and let insurance companies compete for your business.

I have a big company. I have thousands of employees. If I’m negotiating for health insurance for my people in New York or California or Texas, I usually have one bidder in each state. Competition brings down prices, and the way the law is now, it discourages real competition between insurance companies for customers. They have virtual monopolies within the states. That makes no sense. It’s very stupid and unfair for us.

You know who loves a lack of competition? Those insurance companies, who are making a fortune because they control the politicians. They’ve paid for them with their contributions, and it’s a good investment from their perspectives. For our country, not so much. They give money to almost all the politicians. I’m using my own money so I am free to do what’s right, and serve the people, not the lobbyists.

Nobody understands business better than I do. You want better plans at a better price? Increase competition for customers.

The government doesn’t belong in health care except as the very last resort. The main way the government should be involved is to make sure the insurance companies are financially strong so that if there is a catastrophic event or they make some kind of miscalculation, they have the resources they’ll need to handle it.

If we follow my logic, our health care system, and our economy, will be well again very soon.

Trump, Donald J. (2015-11-03). Crippled America: How to Make America Great Again (Kindle Locations 944-956). Threshold Editions. Kindle Edition.


9 posted on 02/08/2016 7:42:44 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Trump goes astray in the same way that Obama, Sanders, and Clinton do: in the assumption that what ails American health care is profit. What actually ails American health care is demographics, with an aging society....”

What actually ails American health care is high prices. We pay two or three times as much for the same procedure as they do in Europe. That’s why we spend 20% of out GDP on health care, and they spend less than 10%. If the costs are this high, there is no conceivable scheme of payment that will make health care affordable.

Look at the numbers:

Total health care expenditures: $3 trillion
Total salaries and wages: $7 trillion
Total GDP: $15 trillion

We just can’t afford to pay what we’re paying.


10 posted on 02/08/2016 7:43:49 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Jane Long

Please confirm that you read the article by pointing out its errors. Thank you.


11 posted on 02/08/2016 7:44:06 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The best thing to replace it with is NOTHING! Just get the hell out of the way and watch the American free enterprise system take over and return it to the pinnacle of international health service that it was before the political fixers got their grubby payola stained hands on it.


12 posted on 02/08/2016 7:46:47 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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RE: How about looking a part of Donald Trump’s actual proposals on healthcare?

At various times, I hear him say the following:

Replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts.

I’m for vaccines, but in smaller quantities to avoid autism.

The insurance companies have total control over politicians.

We didn’t have a free market before ObamaCare.

ObamaCare is a catastrophe that must be repealed & replaced.

Don’t cut Medicare; grow the economy to keep benefits.

ObamaCare deductibles are so high that it’s useless.

Save Medicare & Medicaid without cutting them to the bone.

Increase insurance competition across state lines.

He Flew sick kids cross-country on his private jet.

We must have universal health care. (Jul 2000)

I agree with him on at least two proposals: HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS and COMPETITION ACROSS STATE LINES.

How he plans to give Universal Healthcare is something he needs to explain.


13 posted on 02/08/2016 7:46:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Well said. I never thought of 0 care that way.


14 posted on 02/08/2016 7:47:20 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Jane Long
Does National RINO Review do anything but put out Trump hit pieces? I know they are faltering, but is this really their plan to stay afloat?

National Review writers are like a bratty two old crying on the floor because it is not getting its way with Trump and his voters.

Let them and their dwindling supporters act like two year old brats laying on the floor screaming. Eventually, they will get over it.

15 posted on 02/08/2016 7:48:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Delegate count to date: CMruz 8, Trump 7, Rubio 7, Carson 3, Bush 1, Paul 1)
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To: QuigleyDU

Yes win the election then seriously start working on fixing things. Nobody running has a total healthcare plan all worked out. Vote for who you think is the best problem solver and let them get to work.

I’m voting for Donald Trump because I think he’s the one. I don’t care about playing golf with the guy or going out to dinner with the guy on Friday night.


16 posted on 02/08/2016 7:49:36 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry. It’s just not a deal breaker. The medical system in this country has been broken for over seventy years since third party payer came in promising to take responsibility for one’s health and that of one’s family away from the individual and the family. Then government came in with Medicare for this purpose

Then Medicare was bankrupted by doctors and other administratively, fiscally clueless health care workers misnamed for tge sick care system we now have where tge health of the average citizen is ridiculously below average and we have total dependence on the pharmaceutical industry

Obam came in and took advantage of it like any parasitic person would. No one up there who is not trump is going to fix it especially if (?) insurance or pharmaceuticals are donors. National review is just spewing again


17 posted on 02/08/2016 7:50:52 AM PST by stanne
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To: Jane Long

I see national review and I don’t have to read tge article.


18 posted on 02/08/2016 7:51:53 AM PST by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind
He's definitely on the right track with the health care spending accounts. Anybody getting tax payer funded healthcare should have to maintain a $500 minimum balance in a personal healthcare spending account and that money should then be used for ER and PCP copays, and urgent care services. Failure to maintain the copay should result in wage garnishment and/or forfeiture of tax refunds.

When people don't have to pay a dime for healthcare services, the system is overwhelmed by abusers and the system collapses and that's what's going on. Everyday, millions of freeloaders abuse the healthcare system simply because it doesn't cost them anything not to.

Most people have no idea how widespread this abuse is and what a problem it is for the system. It is massive.

19 posted on 02/08/2016 7:52:37 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: SeekAndFind

First of all don’t let National Review know any of your plans until after the election. They are a den of vipers that are trying to bring this country down along with Obama. National Review wants a yes man to be President and not a leader.


20 posted on 02/08/2016 7:53:12 AM PST by YukonGreen
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