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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

McCain doesn’t belong with the others in any way shape or form.

As much as I despise him as a person and as a politician, both of his parents are citizens and he was born in the Canal Zone on what was at that time American soil.

He was never eligible for Panamanian citizenship, only American citizenship.
Attempting to leave out the U.S. territorial nature of the Canal Zone is dishonest.


9 posted on 02/07/2016 10:20:40 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd; freedomjusticeruleoflaw

MrEdd, I agree with your statement. I also extend it to the children of US citizens born in foreign countries while their parents are on active military duty and in the country under military orders. I.e. my oldest daughter who was born in a US Army hospital in Germany when I was on a 4 year tour there as an active duty soldier with the 3rd Armored Division.


27 posted on 02/07/2016 10:34:02 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: MrEdd

Only basing my ? on reports that he was born in a hospital outside of the Canal Zone.


78 posted on 02/07/2016 12:11:57 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: MrEdd

“Attempting to leave out the U.S. territorial nature of the Canal Zone is dishonest.”

Absolutely. The same goes for anywhere the flag flies. Foreign embassies, military bases and ships, both sea and air.


100 posted on 02/07/2016 1:07:12 PM PST by moehoward
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To: MrEdd

“McCain doesn’t belong with the others in any way shape or form.”

Dead wrong, because John McCain acquired U.S. citizenship by naturalization.

“As much as I despise him as a person and as a politician, both of his parents are citizens and he was born in the Canal Zone on what was at that time American soil.”

Wrong again. Yes, both of his parents were U.S. citizens. No, he was not born in the Panama Canal Zone. No, the Panama Canal Zone was not included within the Organic and Incorporated territories of the United States jurisdiction as determined by the U.S. Supreme court in the Slaughterhouse cases and other case law required to qualify for any form of U.S. citizenship. John McCain was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama, just on the other side of the border and away from the Panama Canal Zone. Nonetheless, it makes no difference whether John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, Germany, Japan, or any other location outside the jurisdiction of the states and incorporated territories of the United States; any such child born abroad in those locations, including the Panama Canal Zone, can acquire U.S. citizenship by naturalization at birth or after birth.

“He was never eligible for Panamanian citizenship, only American citizenship.”

Whether or not McCain was eligible for Panamanian citizenship is not relevant. In either case McCain was eligible to acquire U.S. citizenship by the authority of the U.S. Immigration and naturalization Act for naturalization at birth in Panama due to his parents being U.S. citizens.

“Attempting to leave out the U.S. territorial nature of the Canal Zone is dishonest.”

No, what is dishonest if your false accusation. I did not leave out the Panama Canal Zone, because I have repeatedly and clearly stated on countless occasions that McCain was not born in the Panama Canal Zone; he was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama; and it makes no difference whether he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, or any other place abroad due to U.S. citizenship being available to such a child born abroad in any of those places except by naturalization at birth or after birth. The Panama Canal Zone is not relevant, because McCain was not born in the Panama Canal Zone. Even if McCain had been born in the Panama Canal Zone, the U.S. Supreme Court decided in the Slaughterhouse cases the Panama Canal Zone is not included as a part of the organic United States and its incorporated territories. Instead, the Panama Canal Zone was an outlying territory and not an organic territory of the United States.


125 posted on 02/08/2016 5:21:41 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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