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To: MrEdd

“McCain doesn’t belong with the others in any way shape or form.”

Dead wrong, because John McCain acquired U.S. citizenship by naturalization.

“As much as I despise him as a person and as a politician, both of his parents are citizens and he was born in the Canal Zone on what was at that time American soil.”

Wrong again. Yes, both of his parents were U.S. citizens. No, he was not born in the Panama Canal Zone. No, the Panama Canal Zone was not included within the Organic and Incorporated territories of the United States jurisdiction as determined by the U.S. Supreme court in the Slaughterhouse cases and other case law required to qualify for any form of U.S. citizenship. John McCain was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama, just on the other side of the border and away from the Panama Canal Zone. Nonetheless, it makes no difference whether John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, Germany, Japan, or any other location outside the jurisdiction of the states and incorporated territories of the United States; any such child born abroad in those locations, including the Panama Canal Zone, can acquire U.S. citizenship by naturalization at birth or after birth.

“He was never eligible for Panamanian citizenship, only American citizenship.”

Whether or not McCain was eligible for Panamanian citizenship is not relevant. In either case McCain was eligible to acquire U.S. citizenship by the authority of the U.S. Immigration and naturalization Act for naturalization at birth in Panama due to his parents being U.S. citizens.

“Attempting to leave out the U.S. territorial nature of the Canal Zone is dishonest.”

No, what is dishonest if your false accusation. I did not leave out the Panama Canal Zone, because I have repeatedly and clearly stated on countless occasions that McCain was not born in the Panama Canal Zone; he was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama; and it makes no difference whether he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, or any other place abroad due to U.S. citizenship being available to such a child born abroad in any of those places except by naturalization at birth or after birth. The Panama Canal Zone is not relevant, because McCain was not born in the Panama Canal Zone. Even if McCain had been born in the Panama Canal Zone, the U.S. Supreme Court decided in the Slaughterhouse cases the Panama Canal Zone is not included as a part of the organic United States and its incorporated territories. Instead, the Panama Canal Zone was an outlying territory and not an organic territory of the United States.


125 posted on 02/08/2016 5:21:41 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
McCain was not born in the Panama Canal Zone; he was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama;

If confession is good for the soul, I'd like to give it a try regarding Juan McShame, my former Senator.

A vote for McCain, Vietnam POW, War Hero, was among the first votes I cast, so I carry some of the blame for all he's done. Youth and ignorance are no excuse, but that's all I've got.

When I finally stumbled into sanity about him and the GOPe, I vowed I would never vote for him again and I meant it. I can't stand that guy. Plus, since I'd moved across country, I didn't see how I'd ever break that vow.

The "Kenyan-born Senator" from Illinois, Barry obama, turned the tables on me and my vow and suddenly all I had was my vote to keep the usurper out of the White House.

Palin was the honey that made my bitter vow-breaking vote for McCain easier to swallow.

But...only made possible because McCain had been born on US territory in Panama...or so I was told...and I believed it without checking it out.

So when it comes to the Natural Born Citizen issue, I'm a repentant sinner reformed and you know how they are.

Worse, in my case, I knew better and I did it anyway, rationalizing how voting for a "lesser" evil is really a greater good and how doing a wrong would make it right.

So much for sanity. By voting McCain to keep obama out of the WH, I got played, I broke my vow to myself and the oaths I'd pledged and I became a hypocrite, all at the same time.

And that's bad. Not as bad as being Cam Newton in a post-Super Bowl interview, but definitely bad.

Now here we are with Cruz 2016, it's like deja vu all over again, but this time I'm watching from my now much more humbled point of view, instead of being played as a repeat offender.

None for me, thanks. I quit. Been there, done that, burned the t-shirt, still have the rash.

128 posted on 02/08/2016 8:33:07 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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