Skip to comments.Trump: Bush family used eminent domain to build a baseball park
Posted on 02/07/2016 9:24:25 AM PST by jimbo123
Following attacks from primary rival Jeb Bush about his past use of eminent domain, Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump on Sunday accused the Bush family of using the practice to build a baseball stadium in Texas.
"Eminent domain is a very important thing," Trump said on ABC's "This Week." "Jeb Bush doesn't understand what it means, and if you look into the Bush family - I found this five minutes ago - they used eminent domain for the stadium in Texas, where they own, I guess, a piece of the Texas Rangers."
When host George Stephanopoulos said that was Jeb's brother, former President George W. Bush, Trump said his point still stands.
"That doesn't matter," he said. "It was the Bush family. They used private eminent domain. He didn't tell anybody this. So, I mean, he should have told people."
"Maybe - he probably doesn't know because I don't think he even knows what eminent domain is," he added.
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Surely some of the Gee Opieletes accustomed to riding on the Shrub's industrial coat tails, as well.
Their ride's here:
The City of Arlington also sued, and lost.
Bush had no involvement.
Without even looking, I already know it had to be a Trump supporter.
Please don’t soil the pages of this fine forum by using DailyKos as a source. Conservatives know better. Trump supporters? Not so much.
Trump has no clue what he is talking about here. The land in question was owned by the City of Arlington.
The issue is “what the taking for a public purpose?”
These sports stadium deals are great deal for team owners who would rather lease the stadium for a local Stadium Development Corp than own them in their corporate name.
They set these up these stadium deals as long term leases which is a form of real estate ownership, but much more tax savvy to a for profit professional team owner.
Hence the familiar term, “public private partnership.”
I think they do but I will twitter it to them also I know somebody is reading twitter
Please donât soil the pages of this fine forum by using DailyKos as a source. Conservatives know better. Trump supporters? Not so much.
And that is why I also supplied an additional link below that one. :)
By the way, I read and watch television from lefty organizations. If find life in the “echo chamber” intellectually debilitating. They have sources others don’t have...reader beware, of course.
I used to be a Cruz supporter...glad I got I switched...
And now you support someone who is to the left of Bernie Sanders on this issue.
>>I think they do but I will twitter it to them also I know somebody is reading twitter
Cool. Tell them to Free Roger!
“They had an opportunity that was squandered,” Zeitz said. “That’s really what happened. Imagine what they’d done if they’d really reinvested in the city. It’s a shame.”
BY THE NUMBERS
Is what Vera Coking and her husband paid for the 29-room boardinghouse/low income rooming house. In 1961.
$1 million offered by Bob Guccione in 1979/1980.
$1 million offered by Trump after Superior court denied ED.
$530,000~Price fetched at auction.
$995,000~Asking price prior to forced auction.
$2M~Amount Donald Trump offered as recently as several
AND - it was reported in the newspapers that Trump not only eventually offered her 2+ million, but in addition to also provide her a free place to live in Palm Beach FL for the remainder of her life.
And now you support someone who is to the left of Bernie Sanders on this issue.
The “Conservatives” cannot have it both ways.
These eminent domain discussions are discussed in a vacuum of idealism. Without eminent domain, it is often difficult to create and assemblage in an urban setting to build anything, therefore, its very difficult to attract investment into depressed areas, such as Enterprise Zones.
I used to do pro-bono legal work that put inner city folks to work while we did for profit real estate development.
If you want to get people off welfare and into jobs, don’t make it near impossible to attract investment to create jobs where they are needed.
By the way, lefties hate eminent domain. Maybe YOU are the leftist?
Eminent domain has never been the issue despite Donald Trump's attempt to repaint it as such. Eminent domain is a legitimate function of government as outlined in Amendment V. But this isn't about eminent domain itself. It is about the abuse of eminent domain as demonstrated in Kelo v. New London. And in that case, government confiscated property - not for public use, but for private use. This is exactly what Trump tried to do with Vera Coking.
The Conservative position is that Kelo was one of the worst Supreme Court decisions ever handed down. Yet Donald Trump is 100% in agreement with that decision. Trump does not hold the Conservative position. Trump is not a Conservative.
Eminent domain has never been the issue despite Donald Trump’s attempt to repaint it as such. Eminent domain is a legitimate function of government as outlined in Amendment V.
The Coking case predated Kelo.
By the way, the reason that the case was lost against Coking was because it was not a part of the original development plan for the casinos with the Casino Development Corporation. Therefore, it did not meet the public purpose test. This is the way that eminent domain litigation is supposed to work. The court decides whether or not it was a proper taking.
Also false is the reputed reason for taking the building. The home was being domained because the hotel wanted to add an additional tower, a parking area was a temporary use, while an assemblage was being created. Again, the court worked the way it needed to.
Again, not the Kelo case.
“Bush had no involvement.”
W was an innocent bystander who profited to the tune of multi-millions from a $600,000 investment in a ballpark, by the grace of Ann Richard’s proclamation of eminent domain (public use?) for the benefit of the local business environment and the public welfare.
You and I should be so fortunate, that our city and state would make us millionaires for a relatively small investment, by voting tax increases on our behalf and declaring our private enterprises worthy of the confiscation of private property for sale to the bottomless pockets of tax-happy governments.
I don’t have such business connections and friends in high places. Do you?
GWB and co. took the taxpayers for a ride that any wealthy entrepreneur would envy, and is laughing all the way to the bank.
By the way, I voted for him twice and defended him more than he defended himself.
But as they say, “That’s business”.
. . . which is why Coking won. Once Kelo set a new precedent, Trump stated publicly stated that he was 100% in agreement with Kelo.
Bush didn't invest in a ballpark. He invested in the Texas Rangers.
Then you agree that GWB serendipitously made a killing on his investment in the Texas Rangers: a business enterprise that just happened to build a new stadium with the aid of Gov. Richard's proclamation of eminent domain, which confiscated private property at the exorbitant expense of Arlington taxpayers through an increase in the city sales tax.
Ya gotta give ol' George credit. What a lucky guy! I hope he calls me and cuts me in on his next innocent, eminent domain/taxpayer funded private venture.
Did you think that the Texas Rangers had no financial benefit from the city's financing of and the public's loss of private property through eminent domain?
There is also a major difference between the ball park issue and Trump's attempt to use eminent domain. In this instance the park is still owned by the city; in Trump's case, he would have owned the property.
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