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People Have A 'Fundamental Right' To Own Assault Weapons, Court Rules
Huff Post ^ | 02/04/2016 | Cristian Farias

Posted on 02/06/2016 8:32:39 AM PST by Wildbill22

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To: baltimorepoet

Who owned or kept/maintained the canons?


161 posted on 02/08/2016 7:53:55 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: mylife
WTF is "hate crime"?

It's an unfortunate misspelling of *Hat Crime* a crime committed by a person wearting a particularly ugly or inappropriate hat, or of stealing or damaging the hat of another person.


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162 posted on 02/08/2016 7:57:26 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

LOL!!


163 posted on 02/08/2016 9:07:21 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

WTF is an assault weapon?

Anything that looks scary to a 45 year-old eastern liberal, but not to you, or me, or just about any ten year old boy.

Like this fearsome implement of mass destruction.

164 posted on 02/08/2016 12:21:01 PM PST by Kenton
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To: ThunderSleeps

I’m pretty sure the Brown Bess musket was the assault weapon in current use by infantry at the time the amendment was written.


165 posted on 02/08/2016 4:57:18 PM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: archy

I believe a cannon owned by a Texan named McGloin was stolen by Mexicans retreating from their defeat at San Jacinto. People still search for it. Much later, TR’s rough riders were given a gift of one or two Colt/Browning machine guns from Lewis Tiffany, a relative of one of his recruits. They had no problem purchasing them. Of course older fully automatic weapons can still be owned in most states, pre 68 I think. I don’t know what the laws are on modern artillery or when it was banned from private ownership, but I think it wasn’t till 1934, a century and a half after the second amendment. And I’m not sure they’re illegal now. I know there’s a Federal destructive device stamp which applies to artillery and shells, $200 each, so prohibitions are likely state. Buying one might be an issue, I don’t think the military sells them unless welded. And despite their legality, I’ve never heard of a crime committed with a legally obtained automatic weapon.


166 posted on 02/08/2016 5:00:51 PM PST by SJackson (What I’m watching in him (O), is uncertainty...a leader doesn’t give sh*t...he gets it don)
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To: Carry_Okie

No. Philadelphia Police Department was established in 1751. NYPD was established from the remains of several prior police agencies in 1845. Boston PD started in 1838. If you want to include the predecessor ‘watch’ organization or town guards (which was also pretty much all they had in most European countries at the time too), policing in America goes back to 1636.


167 posted on 02/08/2016 5:30:23 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SJackson

My understanding is that there was one murder committed by a legally owned class III Firearm...by a police officer in the 1970s killing his wife.


168 posted on 02/08/2016 5:34:13 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Spktyr
Sounds like our sources disagree somewhat as to what constitutes a "police force." My source has the first police force in London in 1829, 1845 in America in NYC. Policing at that time was as much or more a patronage job than professional law enforcement. Policing as we know it today, really didn't get going until the 20th Century as a creature of the "progressive movement," not exactly the heritage I suspect you would like to cite.

Either way, for a hundred years after the Constitution was ratified, policing as we know it now was quite uncommon.

169 posted on 02/08/2016 5:49:40 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: mylife

“...WTF is an assault weapon?...”

Beats me... I always thought “assault” was a verb.

I always thought they were “PDWs” - Personal Defense Weapons.

Guess it depends on which side of the muzzle you’re standing on...


170 posted on 02/08/2016 6:20:47 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

stupid word games.


171 posted on 02/08/2016 6:37:21 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: NFHale

stupid word games.


172 posted on 02/08/2016 6:37:21 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: GregoTX
"I hate that idiotic term assault weapon, only hoplophobes use it."

Its even worse when they call it a HIGH POWERED assault weapon.

173 posted on 02/09/2016 6:14:57 AM PST by two23 (Ignore the media. It isn't propaganda if we don't listen.)
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To: mylife

I hear you.

But words mean things. And as long as we continue to let them own the language and define the meaning of things, it’ll just go on.


174 posted on 02/09/2016 8:24:24 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: SJackson
Much later, TR's rough riders were given a gift of one or two Colt/Browning machine guns from Lewis Tiffany, a relative of one of his recruits. They had no problem purchasing them.

They had some small problems. Getting the MGs in the .30 Government/.30-40 Krag caliber that would use the same ammunition as the 1st Volunteer Cavalry's Krag carbines was not possible, so they settled for guns in the Spanish 7x57mm caliber instead, with only 4000 rounds of the Spanish caliber ammunition available to take with them...which turned out to work all right, after the Rough Riders Gatling Gun detatchment found an early 4th of July present in the form of about 10,000 rounds of Mauser ammunition in the Spanish trenches captured on July First.

As TR wrote in The Rough Riders (1899): "Our regiment had accumulated two rapid-fire Colt automatic guns, the gift of Stevens, Kane, Tiffany, and one or two others of the New York men … ." Most writers have since just referred to the Model 1895’s as "the Tiffany guns" supposing that the Tiffany mentioned by Roosevelt was Louis Comfort Tiffany, whose Oyster Bay estate, Laurel Hollow, was close to TR’s Sagamore Hill. They have also, mistakenly, referred to Louis Comfort Tiffany’s son William Tiffany, a trooper in the 1st U.S.V.

William Tiffany was actually the son of Newport, R.I., scions George and Isabella Tiffany, who donated one of the two guns to the regiment. He was promoted to sergeant commanding the two Colt-Browning machine gun section and was later promoted to lieutenant following his actions on July 1, 1898.

*Source*

175 posted on 02/12/2016 10:46:05 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: lepton
My understanding is that there was one murder committed by a legally owned class III Firearm...by a police officer in the 1970s killing his wife.

There have been three, the one you describe, another on September 15th, 1988, when a 13-year veteran of the Dayton, Ohio police department, Patrolman Roger Waller, then 32, used his fully automatic MAC-11 .380 caliber submachine gun to kill a police informant, 52-year-old Lawrence Hileman. Patrolman Waller pleaded guilty in 1990, and he and an accomplice were sentenced to 18 years in prison; no charges relating to the use/possession of the weapon were filed. And a Piggly-Wiggly grocery store owner in the south who used a Thompson in the 1960s in a killing of a *Dixie Mafia* member, who was arrested on state charges of possession of an illegal automatic firearm but was released after he was shown to be an undercover informant for the FBI, and therefore a *Police Agent* entitled to possess the weapon under state law. The feds declined to press any federal charges and the state homicide charges were also dropped.

176 posted on 02/12/2016 10:56:14 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Wildbill22

DO NOT TAKE THIS CASE TO SCOTUS. Not for now anyways.


177 posted on 02/15/2016 5:27:37 AM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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