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All the ways the F-35 is screwed up, according to the Pentagon’s top weapons tester
The Washington Post ^ | 2/4/16 | Dan Lamothe

Posted on 02/06/2016 7:44:03 AM PST by don-o

The Pentagon's top weapons tester has condemned aspects of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program in a new report, raising questions about the $1.5-trillion effort's ability to meet its already slipped production schedule, synthesize information on the battlefield and keep aircraft available to fly.

The 82-page report was distributed to Congress last month, and released publicly this week. It was completed by Michael Gilmore, the Pentagon's director of operational test and evaluation. He reports directly to Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter, and carries out independent assessments for both Carter and members of Congress.

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To: don-o

Still think they should have gone with the YF-23.


21 posted on 02/06/2016 8:54:22 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: elcid1970
 photo gals188_zpso8ipnyda.jpg

This is an old photo in bad shape but it does show the different angles of attack.

This was taken at Eglin I think on Memorial day many years ago.

22 posted on 02/06/2016 8:59:38 AM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: don-o

So Pukin Dog left that Delta commuter affiliate and got a new job at the Pentagon? Wondered why he had quit posting.


23 posted on 02/06/2016 9:04:16 AM PST by PAR35
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To: elcid1970

“Slow flight is only slightly faster than stall speed.”

That would be VERY slow flight. . . .


24 posted on 02/06/2016 9:05:30 AM PST by Hulka
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To: elcid1970

May have been designed by the folks at Lockheed who put together the L-1011. It had to fly with a tail-down attitude, as well.


25 posted on 02/06/2016 9:05:30 AM PST by PAR35
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To: yarddog

You can tell it is slow flight for the F-15 because the inlets align with the relative wind. They are cantered down, therefore indicating nose up slow flight.


26 posted on 02/06/2016 9:07:22 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Cyman

They’re custom fitted to the pilot. ;-P


27 posted on 02/06/2016 9:09:31 AM PST by MortMan (I am offended by those who believe they have a right not to be offended.)
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To: Da Coyote

Exactly correct. Another McNamara Edsel.


28 posted on 02/06/2016 9:10:57 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Hulka

Leading edge slats look down too.


29 posted on 02/06/2016 9:27:48 AM PST by biff
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To: yarddog

A pretty airplane is a good airplane so the saying goes.

This airplane is butt ugly.


30 posted on 02/06/2016 10:00:50 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: yarddog

31 posted on 02/06/2016 10:03:53 AM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: PLMerite

32 posted on 02/06/2016 10:05:37 AM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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33 posted on 02/06/2016 10:09:23 AM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: biff

If you are referring to the F-15, they do not have leading edge slats.


34 posted on 02/06/2016 10:11:41 AM PST by Hulka
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To: biff

I can see where it might look like they do, but they do not.


35 posted on 02/06/2016 10:12:40 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Sequoyah101

>>A pretty airplane is a good airplane so the saying goes<<

Personally, I think the A-10 is the Belle of the Ball.


36 posted on 02/06/2016 10:13:49 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: puppypusher
Even during the 50’s the AirForce and Navy were developing multiple Fighter variants and abandoning them just as fast at great expense.

I think you've missed an important point here. They were developing multiple aircraft, and picking the best. They weren't putting all their eggs in one basket.

Despite being a Communist country, the USSR followed the "capitalist" practice of having competing design bureaus, which did no manufacturing. A winning design was turned over to a manufacturing plant. As a result, they developed some excellent aircraft.

The F-16 came as a result of a competitive flyoff. We haven't done such a flyoff since then. The F-22 and the F-35 were selected on the basis of a paper competition.

For better or worse, the F-35 will be produced and declared "operational." There are too many careers and egos invested in it to back out of what may have been a bad decision.

37 posted on 02/06/2016 10:17:35 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: don-o

Over promise, under deliver.

Wishing don’t make things so.

Telling people what they want to hear instead of the truth.

Wanting and needing the job so badly you promise whatever you have to to get it thinking you’ll figure out how later and never do because the commercial and engineering objectives and physics just aren’t compatible.

Slamming a proposal together on the basis of conjecture because you don’t have time to do the job right.

Wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first.

It all leads to wasted money, failed projects and bad feelings.


38 posted on 02/06/2016 10:21:22 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

“The F-16 came as a result of a competitive flyoff. We haven’t done such a flyoff since then. The F-22 and the F-35 were selected on the basis of a paper competition.”

That statement is not true.If you dislike the F23 you would have really hated the Boeing version of their Joint strike fighter.

Not only was it ugly it had to have parts removed to even try in a short take off and landing mode.

There was a movie about the prototype production,tryouts and selection of the Joint Strike fighter and I found it to be very interesting.Maybe you will be too since it was produced by PBS.

I think the total was fighter of the century or something like it.

But the Boeing Jet was a real dog.


39 posted on 02/06/2016 10:53:16 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Hulka

OK thanks, didn’t know but the poor picture kinda looked like it.


40 posted on 02/06/2016 10:56:42 AM PST by biff
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