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Why Liberals Should Support a Trump Republican Nomination
New York Magazine ^ | February 5, 2016 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 02/05/2016 1:45:29 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

The initial stupefaction and dismay with which liberals greeted Donald Trump's candidacy have slowly given way to feelings of Schadenfreude- reveling in the suffering of others, in this case the apoplectic members of the Republican Establishment. Are such feelings morally wrong? Or can liberals enjoy the spectacle unleavened by guilt? As Republican voters start actually voting, is it okay to be sad - alarmed, even - by the prospect that the Trump hostile takeover of the GOP may fail?

There are three reasons, in descending order of obviousness, for a liberal to earnestly and patriotically support a Trump Republican nomination. The first, of course, is...

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TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Cuba; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; carson; cruz; cruzintohillary; cruzwhorship; cuba; goinghomesooncruz; luzer; luzers; rubio; sttedschoir; trump
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Ted Cruz 2016!
1 posted on 02/05/2016 1:45:29 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Because he’s one of them? What do I win?


2 posted on 02/05/2016 1:46:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: GodGunsGuts

From the article (sound familiar?):

“What has most horrified conservative activists about Trump’s rise is how little he or his supporters seem to care about their anti-government ideology.”


3 posted on 02/05/2016 1:47:13 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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A longer quote is in order!:

“What has most horrified conservative activists about Trump’s rise is how little he or his supporters seem to care about their anti-government ideology. When presented with the candidate’s previous support for higher taxes on the rich or single-payer insurance, heresies of the highest order, Trump fans merely shrug.”


4 posted on 02/05/2016 1:48:19 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Because he’s a Democrat. That was easy.


5 posted on 02/05/2016 1:49:35 PM PST by Durbin
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Why does the Left keep saying stuff like this over and over? Because from their totalitarian perspective, it’s true!

From the article:

“The third reason to prefer a Trump nomination: If he does win, a Trump presidency would probably wind up doing less harm to the country than a Marco Rubio or a Cruz presidency. It might even, possibly, do some good.”


6 posted on 02/05/2016 1:50:14 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; 2ndDivisionVet

7 posted on 02/05/2016 1:51:28 PM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Here’s another liberal who does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1tIH5XhXa0


8 posted on 02/05/2016 1:52:26 PM PST by pookie18 (9 months until the general election...)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I just don't get it. "Shrug" is exactly the way I'd characterize the typical response as well.

I'm not a Cruz guy - I'm Rubio, but I will at least admit that his immigration position concerns the hell out of me. A lot of the Trump people don't even seem to care.

9 posted on 02/05/2016 1:53:39 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: GodGunsGuts

The best point in the article, but it’s largely shrouded in Chait’s usual “I hate republicans, republicans is so stupid” nonsense, is that at the first sign of political trouble, Trump will probably revert to his “moderate” or even liberal leaning ways. This is my biggest fear of a Trump presidency.


10 posted on 02/05/2016 1:54:17 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole's)
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To: GodGunsGuts
the Trump hostile takeover of the GOP...?
11 posted on 02/05/2016 1:54:21 PM PST by yoe
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More from the article...do you so the very REAL and PRESENT danger folks???

“The Trump campaign may feel like an off-the-grid surrealistic nightmare, The Man in the High Castle meets Idiocracy. But something like it has happened before. Specifically, it happened in California, a place where things often happen before they happen to the rest of us, in 2003, when Arnold Schwarzenegger won the governorship. At the time, the prospect of Schwarzenegger governing America’s largest state struck many of us as just as ghastly as the idea of a Trump presidency seems now. Like Trump, Schwarzenegger came directly to politics from the celebrity world without bothering to inform himself about public policy. He campaigned as a vacuous Man of Action in opposition to the Politicians, breezing by all the specifics as the petty obsessions of his inferiors.”

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“But then something funny happened. When his legislative agenda stalled and his ballot measures failed, Schwarzenegger reversed course. The new Schwarzenegger compromised with Democrats on the budget, raising taxes and funding new public infrastructure. He abandoned his opposition to gay marriage, passed redistricting reform, and enacted cutting-edge legislation to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions. He proposed sweeping health-care reform based on Mitt Romney’s successful Massachusetts plan. It failed, but when President Obama passed a national health-care law (also based on Romney’s plan), Schwarzenegger defied furious Republicans and eagerly hopped aboard, which enabled his state to roll out its Obamacare exchange smoothly. By the end of his tenure, it was impossible to deny that Schwarzenegger had become a highly effective governor.”


12 posted on 02/05/2016 1:55:05 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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I do not think there are too many liberal nationalists around. I don t see Trump as a Liberal. I see him as a right of Dem center Dem who either has to move a bit more right or go all in with progressives as most other Democrats have.

Looks to me like he s moved a bit right. That s okay with me. I take the recently converted over the standard establishment.

13 posted on 02/05/2016 1:56:02 PM PST by Fhios (circa 2016: Truth will be outlawed unless pre-approved.)
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To: pookie18

Yep...Carter was one of the first to recognize how beneficial a Trump presidency could by...TO THE DEMOCRATS.


14 posted on 02/05/2016 1:56:18 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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"The GOP is a machine that harnesses ethno-nationalistic fear — of communists, criminals, matrimonial gays, terrorists, snooty cultural elites — to win elections and then, once in office, caters to its wealthy donor base."

So we should not fear criminals and terrorists? Does "Jonathan" like snobs? (Yes, he IS one.) Do not liberals also fear certain social groups whose values they do not share? (Yes.)

As for "communists," that word is not heard very often in today's political debates, on either side. But - since he brought it up - does precious little "Jonathan" think there is nothing to fear from communism, with its millions of victims?

Jonathan Chait is a silly, highly overpaid man, who is basically paid for the farts that come out of his mouth.
15 posted on 02/05/2016 1:56:42 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: GodGunsGuts

I have said the same thing - Arnold is the only template we have for a Trump presidency, and a President Trump will likely govern much as Arnold did.


16 posted on 02/05/2016 1:59:22 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: GodGunsGuts; All

As mentioned in related threads, patriots please bear the following in mind.

The president has only signature / veto power for domestic policy issues under the Constitution. So patriots need to support the next conservative president by also electing a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support the president, but also protect the states from unconstitutional federal governent overreach.

Such a Congress will also probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.


17 posted on 02/05/2016 2:00:24 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: PROCON

18 posted on 02/05/2016 2:02:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Nachum

Attack Trump.
Attack Cruz.
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Oopsie. Not working.

Support Bush, support Kasich, support Christie, support Graham, (Grimace) support Fiorina, (grimace) sort-of-not-attack-Carson.

Oopsie. Not working.

Support Bush, support Rubio, support Rubio, support Rubio.

Oopsie. Not working.

(Grimace) Sort-of-support Trump so he can defeat Cruz.


19 posted on 02/05/2016 2:03:56 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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HA, there's my good FRiend!

See ya in the Caucus.

20 posted on 02/05/2016 2:05:23 PM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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