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The fury of Ben Carson (campaign vows to make Cruz pay)
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Posted on 02/04/2016 7:02:21 PM PST by springwater13

The candidate and his flailing campaign look consumed with one thing: Making Ted Cruz pay for 'dirty tricks' in Iowa.

Five days from the New Hampshire primary, Ben Carson has yet to set foot in this state since his fourth-place finish in Iowa. His detour to Florida for a fresh set of clothes has become a running joke online. The candidate is, by all indications, consumed by what he calls the "dirty tricks" of Ted Cruz’s campaign.

"Dr. Carson feels absolutely robbed, violated," said Armstrong Williams, a Carson confidant, in a phone interview. "He realizes, the Democrats are not his enemies trying to malign him. It's people who smile in his face, shake his hand, go out to dinner with him - and yet, they’re trying to destroy him behind his back."

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To: Paul R.
It is certainly implied, and you conveniently neglect the following communication.

And you are conveniently ignoring that a Rubio supporter started it, NOT Cruz, AND the Rubio supporter stated Carson is out.

And I know why you're ignoring it.

101 posted on 02/05/2016 3:23:56 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Outlaw76

I don’t get your point? I just don’t like Cruz! And what he did...I would vote for Sanders before Cruz, I really just want to beat Hillary, Cruz is part of our problem.


102 posted on 02/05/2016 3:32:04 AM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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To: sagar

Cruz is a fighter that WINS.


He did win. Unfortunately, he won with dirty tricks and lying and got caught.


103 posted on 02/05/2016 3:32:07 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: springwater13

Possible reason why he’s not in NH:

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/01/11/ben-carson-entire-super-pac-staff-quit-and-joined-ted-cruz-campaign/mTaafD40dEsjPsbFiLrRpO/story.html


104 posted on 02/05/2016 3:33:27 AM PST by pookie18 (9 months until the general election...)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
I would vote for Sanders before Cruz, I really just want to beat Hillary, Cruz is part of our problem.

You would actually vote for Sanders? Seriously?

105 posted on 02/05/2016 3:36:08 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
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At two GOP Debate Watch Parties (Quaker Steak & Lube, St. Pete, FL) I have openly praised Dr. Ben Carson and encouraged all attendees to watch his movie "Gifted Hands", although I am an official Ted Cruz Florida Campaigner.

Having said that, Dr. Ben Carson, as brilliant as he is, has run a disasterous Presidential Campaign.



Dr. Ben Carson is now whining about a pathetic fourth-place Iowa finish, BLOWING his previous 4-week straight Iowa polling lead.

And of course, it's ALL Ted Cruz's fault.



It's clearly Ted Cruz's fault that Ben Carson suspended his Presidntial campaign for two week to promote Carson's new book (/sarcasm-off).

It's clearly Ted Cruz's fault that one-half of Ben Carson's campaign team leadership QUIT two weeks before the Iowa vote (/sarcasm-off).

It's clearly Ted Cruz's fault that Ben Carson wasted two weeks on a STUPID Middle East visit, instead of campaigning in all of Iowa's 99 counties (/sarcasm-off).

It's clearly Ted Cruz's fault that Dr. Ben Carson's debate performances have been PATHETIC ... or worse (/sarcasm-off).

It's clearly Ted Cruz's fault that Dr. Ben Carson announced that Carson was leaving Iowa for a Florida trip (and NOT campaigning in Iowas) ... (/sarcasm-off).



Picture yourself as an Iowa Caucus Voter.


If CNN had floated a political rumor that Donald Trump was going to suspend his campaign after Iowa ... NO ONE WOULD HAVE BELIEVED IT.

Why ?

Donald Trump (like him or not) is a GENUINELY serious Presidential candidate.


If CNN had floated a political rumor that Marco Rubio was going to suspend his campaign after Iowa ... NO ONE WOULD HAVE BELIEVED IT.

Why ?

Marco Rubio (like him or not) is a GENUINELY serious Presidential candidate.



In the 2016 GOP Presidential race, Dr. Ben Carson is simply a black version of Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum, Rand Paul, and Jim Gilmore.

Maybe nice guys ... but NONE really serious about getting elected President.


At least Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum have had the grace and dignity to drop-out.



All Dr. Ben Carson wants to do is whine about BLOWING his (once incredible) Iowa lead ...

Maybe Dr. Ben Carson can go contemplate his "political stupidity" in one of those Egyptian Pyramid Grain Silos ...


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106 posted on 02/05/2016 4:19:07 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: MD Expat in PA
I would vote for Sanders before Cruz, I really just want to beat Hillary, Cruz is part of our problem.
You would actually vote for Sanders? Seriously?

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Joking NO right now I would vote for Trump just for the reason he will make jobs, build the wall and lower taxes on bussiness...I am retired and it doesn't matter to me much about a job personally. I just think he is the right thing for our country. If Trump can just do those 3 things we will see a difference in our America, IMHO. I just was pointing out how bad I want hillary gone form out sight...

107 posted on 02/05/2016 4:35:52 AM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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To: Mollypitcher1

I was thinking he would support Trump, too. Trump has been sticking up for him and I’ve read that Trump and Carson have been friends for a number of years, especially coming together for work with St. Jude’s Childrens Hospital.


108 posted on 02/05/2016 4:44:12 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: Seattle Conservative
I was thinking he would support Trump, too. Trump has been sticking up for him and I've read that Trump and Carson have been friends for a number of years, especially coming together for work with St. Jude's Childrens Hospital.

And this is why Trump accused his BBF Carson of being pathological and no different from a pedophile:

"He wrote a book and in the book, he said terrible things about himself," Trump said of Carson. "He said that he's pathological and he's got basically pathological disease ... I don't want a person that's got pathological disease." "I said that if you're a child molester, a sick puppy, a child molester, there's no cure for that - there's only one cure and we don't want to talk about that cure, that's the ultimate cure. No there's two, there's death and the other thing. But if you're a child molester, there's no cure, they can't stop you. Pathological, there's no cure. There's only one cure--we don't want to talk about that cure. That's the ultimate cure. Well, there's two, there's death, and the other thing."

109 posted on 02/05/2016 4:51:04 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: sagar
Carson would be wise to support Cruz. Cruz is a fighter that WINS. Trump is a whining twitter addict.

I am a Cruz supporter and send him money - I ask you what, other than his senate seat, he has actually fought for and won as far as substantive Bills/Laws in the Congress.

I like his style and policies but it seems he has been stymied to the point of doing what you claim Trump does (while being a top player in his chosen career) - make noise with no results.

If Cruz falls, I'll be all-in for Trump because nobody else is as near suitable as a second to Cruz - but I won't trash either or tell fibs about one to make him seem better.

110 posted on 02/05/2016 5:03:32 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: springwater13

111 posted on 02/05/2016 5:06:26 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Trump or Cruz, if you don't vote then STFU and leave the country, non-voters =non-Republic.)
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To: sagar

In what world does one support the guy who stabbed you in the back?

Denigrating the kindness of Ben was a stupid mistake.


112 posted on 02/05/2016 9:46:26 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

“In what world does one support the guy who stabbed you in the back?

Denigrating the kindness of Ben was a stupid mistake.”

Please answer this these questions:

1. Did or did not Carson himself say that he was taking a break and going to Florida in the middle of the caucuses?

2. Did or did not CNN report that Carson was taking a break from the campaigning?

3. Is or or is it not reasonable to believe that somebody “taking a break” from the campaigning in the MIDDLE of the caucuses is thinking about quitting?

If you answer “No” to any of those questions, let me know which one(s).

Otherwise, there is nothing to discuss.


113 posted on 02/05/2016 10:06:38 AM PST by sagar (3 way race; cranky populist - Trump/Sanders, establishment - Roobio/Hillary, conservative - Cruz!)
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To: springwater13
He realizes, the Democrats are not his enemies

That's disturbing. I'd like to hear this from Carson directly.
114 posted on 02/05/2016 10:09:09 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: springwater13

Uh oh, Cruz had better give all his Staff Members the biggest Belt Buckles he can get his hands on.


115 posted on 02/05/2016 10:11:52 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: zerosix

All of your points have NOTHING to do with the issue at hand. Your attempt to deflect the issue by introducing another argument is known in the military as diversionary tactics. Sorry, it won’t work. The issue is the Cruz “team” misinforming caucus goers on the status of Carson’s candidacy. Cruz precinct captains spread what is known as a “lie” with the intent to sway Carson’s voters to Cruz. Whether even one vote was changed or not is NOT the issue. It is the FACT that low down dirty lies were brought into the caucuses and that is all. CRUZ is guilty and it is only one instance of his misrepresenting the FACTS.


116 posted on 02/05/2016 10:21:22 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: ilgipper

NOT with LIES!


117 posted on 02/05/2016 10:22:20 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Springfield Reformer

I want my family under the protection of national administrations that will be run by sharpies like Cruz, not sore losers.
..................................................I want my family under the protection of national administrators who do not lie with every breath. I also INSIST my president be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and not an import from CUBA or CANADA!


118 posted on 02/05/2016 10:27:56 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
Thanks Molly.

Didn't tell you but my ancestors connect with the original Molly Pitcher family!

Have a great day!

119 posted on 02/05/2016 10:31:02 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: sagar

Optics baby, optics.

You guys can sit here thread after thread and parse it all you want, the man on the street hears ‘dirty tactics’ and that’s what sticks.

At the very least, and I mean the absolute minimum, efforts should be made to acknowledge the decent man Ben is, even with his goofy pyramid/grain crap.


120 posted on 02/05/2016 10:32:19 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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