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Four Numbers that Suggest Trump Is Still the Favorite in New Hampshire
Weekly Standard ^ | 02/04/2016 | Chris Deaton

Posted on 02/04/2016 1:32:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Donald Trump's days are numbered.

Like so: -11, 4, 21, and 45,416.

These four figures help explain why the favorite for the New Hampshire Republican primary hasn't been knocked from his perch just yet, despite the victory of Ted Cruz in the Iowa caucuses and the surge of Marco Rubio. An argument against Trump's frontrunner status is that Rubio has all the momentum from his strong Iowa finish, and that the real estate mogul no longer has the air of inevitability. ("He's not a machine! He's a man!")

Both of those statements might be true. But so are these: Trump's base of support is formidable and committed, as Jonathan Last notes, even if polls may have overstated its size; and his position in New Hampshire has been strong for months.

Let the numbers show you how:

45,416

Trump may have clung to a second-place finish in Iowa, but he still garnered a historically large amount of votes. He received more than Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee did when they actually won the Iowa caucuses in the last two elections. Trump, in fact, exceeded Santorum's total by more than 15,000. The GOP frontrunner didn't lack for support in volume.

On the other hand, neither did his chief rivals Cruz and Rubio, who both fared well amid record turnout--evidence that many caucus goers also turned out against Trump.

-11

The prevailing wisdom is that New Hampshire is more favorable to Rubio than Cruz, the latter of whom appealed to a culturally conservative Iowa electorate that doesn't resemble the one in New Hampshire. Even if that's the case, Cruz has emerged as a clear alternative to Trump, and he's been part of the logjam in the Granite State vying for second place in the polls.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: newhampshire; primaries; trump

1 posted on 02/04/2016 1:32:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It is kind of interesting when you think about it, that is, the record number of voters for the top three candidates... Nobody is really that passionate about Cruz or Rubio— The record votes for Cruz and Rubio were from people who are passionately anti-Trump-— SO, in essence it is not really a 3 person race it is Race of Trump against himself-—


2 posted on 02/04/2016 1:38:09 PM PST by freespirit2012
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To: freespirit2012

Bingo!


3 posted on 02/04/2016 1:40:37 PM PST by The Toll
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To: freespirit2012

I think Cruz has a very dedicated following. When asked if they will change their mind, Cruz and Trump both have very sure voters. Rubio is a bit softer and is turning into the “not Trump but not Cruz, either” choice.

Trump needs to have a solid win on Tuesday. He needs to break 30% easily and stay at least 8% ahead of second place. Cruz seems to be slipping into third, so he needs a solid week and a good debate. Rubio needs to hold off any serious move by one of the other establishment lane candidates. If Bush, Kasich, or Christie outperform their polling, it is at the expense of Rubio.


4 posted on 02/04/2016 1:44:03 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: freespirit2012
Nobody is really that passionate about Cruz or Rubio

lol. Cruz has signed up close to 200,000 volunteers nationally, believe me there are a lot of people passionate about Ted Cruz for President.

5 posted on 02/04/2016 1:45:43 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: SeekAndFind

Evangelicals rule in Iowa, so it has always been. What is amazing is that Trump did as well as he did, given the alternatives of Huck, Santo, and Cruz.


6 posted on 02/04/2016 1:49:54 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: freespirit2012

Well said. Yes Trump got alot of votes in Iowa (though its clear he is tormented by his 2nd place finish). It is also true that record voters turned out to vote against Trump but were diluted over a field of numerous other candidates. As this race winnows down to fewer and fewer candidates, the anti-Trump vote will begin coalescing around a single anti-Trump candidate. And even if the best case scenario polls for Trump are true, 60% of the republican primary voters are choosing someone other than Trump. His antics these past few days have only cemented the anti-Trump sentiments in many of these voters.


7 posted on 02/04/2016 1:49:57 PM PST by Techjock
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To: GeronL

70% of Trump people are locked in. They came our for him, but so did the guy’s people. Give them all credit.

NH is different. You got those other 4 fighting it out.

I think Trump will win very very big in NH


8 posted on 02/04/2016 1:51:51 PM PST by nikos1121 ('There is no substitute for the comfort supplied by the utterly taken for granted relationship.')
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To: SeekAndFind; All
”. . . , even if polls may have overstated its size; . . .”

In his concession speech to his supporters, Trump explained that his advisors had, from the start, told him to forget about Iowa (my words).

I think that alleged last-minute voter misguidance by Cruz campaign probably spoiled the Iowa poll numbers.

EXCLUSIVE–Voicemails: ‘Ben Carson Suspending Campaigning’; Cruz: ‘Accurate Report’

9 posted on 02/04/2016 1:52:44 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: freespirit2012
Nobody is really that passionate about Cruz or Rubio

I was just in a room two nights ago with a team of folks who are VERY passionate about Cruz. You don't get thousands of volunteers and 600,000 small time donors without it. We must hang out with different folks. Passion WON Iowa for Cruz. Ground game with real people beats air war.
10 posted on 02/04/2016 1:54:55 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: nikos1121

I don’t know where the data comes from that you reference, but I’ll go ahead and stipulate that 70% of Trump’s people are locked in. Trump is getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 30% of the republican primary electorate (though he did not come anywhere near that in Iowa voting results). 70% of 30% of the voting population is 21% of the voting population. Does Trump having a lock on 21% of republican primary voters make you comfortable believing he has the nomination locked up?


11 posted on 02/04/2016 1:55:04 PM PST by Techjock
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To: GeronL
How much of the passion for Cruz comes from being anti-trump though? I agree the Cruz vote is less due to anti-trump feelings than the Rubio vote is, as was mentioned..

But, I still believe it is a large enough portion where it is Trump against himself.-- I also agree that given that reality, Trump should probably be more low key now, if that is possible for him..
12 posted on 02/04/2016 2:07:04 PM PST by freespirit2012
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To: freespirit2012

There was passion for Cruz long before the Lump decided to run.

There was passion for Cruz when he stood up to the establishment and took out Dewhurst.

There was passion for Cruz when he stood up to McConnell and called him a liar on the floor of the Senate.

There was passion for Cruz when he tried to rally conservatives to oppose funding ObamaCare, against the wishes of the GOPE.

There was passion for Cruz when he walked out of a middle-eastern “Christian” convention when they refused to stand with Israel.

Cruz was a meme when he refused to stand up for Obama at the State of the Union. “Be This Guy”...

The Lump is an imitator, pretending to be a Republican. He is unprincipled and malleable. He wants to give the Democrats everything they ask for, because he is one of them.

Cruz is the real thing.

Trump is Hillary.


13 posted on 02/04/2016 2:12:55 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Nice ,,setting the artificial goalposts early.
Gee, why is that?


14 posted on 02/04/2016 2:16:38 PM PST by austinaero
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To: GeronL

Lots of us who were passionate for Cruz early on now are not. I see that is not in your mix.

Are you the poster who advocates for repealing the 19th Amendment?


15 posted on 02/04/2016 2:18:37 PM PST by austinaero
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To: SeekAndFind

I look at it like this.

Trump either wins New Hampshire, or he can pack it in.

Winning so much that you get tired of winning doesn’t include losing.

Simple as that.


16 posted on 02/04/2016 2:19:30 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: austinaero

Those who are still conservatives will still be passionate about Ted Cruz, he hasn’t changed.

Others now support a liberal Democrat intent on destroying any prospect of a Republican victory in November.


17 posted on 02/04/2016 2:25:59 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: GeronL

On here and on conservative radio, people were passionate for Cruz after all those times, but it mysteriously never seemed to translate to the general public until about a month ago...


18 posted on 02/04/2016 2:34:55 PM PST by freespirit2012
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To: austinaero

I’ve been saying it for months. Trump needs to win either Iowa or New Hampshire and he will be set going on as one of the final two or three. Cruz had to come into the top two in Iowa and in the top four in New Hampshire to continue.

Didn’t know who would get the third ticket out of Iowa, but whoever it was needed to finish top four in New Hampshire to have a strong chance in South Carolina. Looks like Rubio will do that solidly.

Just the dynamics of the race this year.


19 posted on 02/04/2016 2:36:26 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Techjock

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20 posted on 02/04/2016 6:32:17 PM PST by nikos1121 ('There is no substitute for the comfort supplied by the utterly taken for granted relationship.')
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