Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

"Ted Cruz gave us Obamacare," says Donald Trump
CBS News ^ | February 4, 2016, 12:13 AM | Sopan Deb

Posted on 02/04/2016 9:58:03 AM PST by SoConPubbie

Little Rock, Arkansas Donald Trump, in a tit-for-tat with his chief rival coming out of Iowa, accused Texas Sen. Ted Cruz of bearing direct responsibility for the Affordable Care Act.

"Ted Cruz gave us Obamacare," Trump said at a Wednesday rally in Little Rock, Arkansas.

The line of attack invoked the landmark health care law that is anathema to many conservatives. Cruz, for his part, has accused Trump of supporting Obamacare, too, accusing Trump as holding the same position on healthcare as Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

Trump's rationale for his claim is a little roundabout. It's based on the fact that Cruz supported John Roberts' nomination to be chief justice of the Supreme Court, which in turn led to the law being upheld twice before the court.

"[Cruz] pushed him. He approved him," Trump said. "And Justice Roberts approved Obamacare twice when it should have been rejected. His vote got it over the top. Ted Cruz did that."

Trump arrived nearly two hours late to the rally due to mechanical issues with his plane that forced his team to land what is colloquially coined "Trump Force One" in Nashville, Tennessee. He took a different plane to the rally.

"There was a minor mechanical issue and Mr. Trump traveled the rest of the trip in a small charter aircraft," said Hope Hicks, Trump's spokesperson.

The late arrival didn't dampen Trump's energy as he launched more attacks at Cruz, calling him "dishonest" in reference to allegations from another candidate, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson.

Carson has accused Cruz's campaign of trying to poach his voters by sending an email to Iowa voters claiming Carson was leaving the race, based on a CNN report that Carson would be absent from the trail and returning home for awhile. Cruz has since said that his staff should have sent a follow-up note to correct the first email. Trump wasted no time in trying to capitalize.

"I said how can they do that?" Trump said. "And everybody said, 'How can they do that?' And then he doesn't get the votes, Ben, but Ted gets the votes."

Wednesday marked a change in demeanor for Trump since Tuesday - from humble to angry. Trump posted a series of angry tweets, calling for a re-do of the Iowa caucuses, just two days after delivering a gracious concession speech in which he congratulated Cruz.

"He should just give it up and move on to New Hampshire," said 26-year-old Scott Tierney, after rolling his eyes. Tierney, a software salesman, from Conway, Arkansas, said he will vote for either Trump, Cruz or Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

Others disagreed.

"I don't think he's a sore loser," said 42-year-old Kris Clayborn, a Trump supporter from Harrison - nearly a three hour drive away. "I know there was a lot of Democrat problems as far as the caucus. To see it on the Republican side doesn't surprise me."

In Arkansas, Trump spoke in front of the an arena that was slightly more than half full, even as Trump claimed it was a record crowd of more than 12,000. Trump may also have committed a college football faux pas - complimenting the University of Alabama's football team - an SEC rival - of Arkansas. The crowd booed.

The crowd was rowdy. One man roamed the floor at the Barton Coliseum wearing a black t-shirt that said "Obama Is A Terrorist" on the back.

While Trump shook hands on the rope line, a topless man with "T R" painted on his chest continuously tried to get Trump's attention. Another man wore a Denver Broncos bathrobe to the rally, to commemorate the Super Bowl. His name was Harrell Boyles and he also wore a pink tie with pigs on it under the bathrobe with a badge pinned to it that said "OMG GOP! WTF?" To complete the outfit, he wore American flag shorts.

Trump heads back to New Hampshire Thursday for four public events -- his first day on the campaign trail with four stops.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: attackbotsforcruz; cruz; cruzclowns; cruzingtohillary; donaldtrump; tedcruz; trump
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-142 next last
To: ObozoMustGo2012

I read the article and the statement is still a flat out lie.


21 posted on 02/04/2016 10:05:37 AM PST by tbpiper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: VanDeKoik
And he’s right. Cruz was a big pusher for Roberts. He’s close friend.

Yeah, like on a lot of stuff, Cruz uses the “Aw shucks, I just had no idea” excuse, but it’s still a fair thing to point out.


So, I guess you really do think that Cruz is God, right?

Because the only way that Cruz would know that Roberts would go left on Obamacare was if he knew the future, because there was nothing in Roberts background that would lead anyone to believe he would do this when he was confirmed.

So, since according to you, Cruz knew this ahead of time, he must know the future, thereby he is guilty of pretending he was against Obamacare.

Therefore, he must be God.


Just more unscrupulous nonsense from a fevered Trump supporter.
22 posted on 02/04/2016 10:05:53 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: ObozoMustGo2012
arena that was slightly more than half full, even as Trump claimed it was a record crowd of more than 12,000

This is a crap piece. The manager of the arena said it was a record crowd, greater than ZZ Top many years ago!! The writer had to point out every A-hole dissident they could find. Trump is right. The writers/reporters are the lowest, pathetic pukes on the planet. This is not post-worthy.

23 posted on 02/04/2016 10:06:38 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: RasterMaster
Already posted:

Nope, that article was from CNN, this one is from CBS.

NOT Already posted.
24 posted on 02/04/2016 10:06:39 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

Continuing to raise the bar for convoluted nonsense.

It’s absolutely fascinating to watch.


25 posted on 02/04/2016 10:06:47 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

I’ve heard that ridiculous argument here on FR. Cruz, at the time Solicitor General of Texas, endorsed Roberts along with many other conservatives, yet he alone is responsible for Robert’s awful ACA decision.


26 posted on 02/04/2016 10:07:14 AM PST by Rusty0604 (1q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: concerned about politics
Cruz stood alone on the Senate floor for 21 hours filibustering and trying to stop obomacare

Don't try to confuse Trumpets with facts. They might show you a bus in mud.

27 posted on 02/04/2016 10:08:42 AM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ObozoMustGo2012
No wonder you’re a Cruz fan. You like to answer questions with another question. Typical slimy lawyer tactic not unlike Cruz.

I see you are avoiding answering a question you know will reflect badly on your candidate TRUMP (PRAISE BE TO HIS NAME!). And then attempting to slander whomever is countering your argument.


Same slimy, under-handed, unscrupulous behavior your candidate regularly engages in.
28 posted on 02/04/2016 10:09:10 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

So we must excuse Cruz’s decisions because he’s “not God”, but we need to elevate him to a point where he isn’t responsible for anything (like this), because he’s basically to be treated like he is?

“Because the only way that Cruz would know that Roberts would go left on Obamacare was if he knew the future, because there was nothing in Roberts background that would lead anyone to believe he would do this when he was confirmed. “

But one of the big talking point is that Cruz will GUARANTEE that no leftist will ever make to SCOTUS because his judgement is so “solid”?


29 posted on 02/04/2016 10:09:27 AM PST by VanDeKoik
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

Trump’s rationale for his claim is a little roundabout

Uhhhh yep

I guess the founders of the country are also at fault for creating an independent judiciary branch of government


30 posted on 02/04/2016 10:09:29 AM PST by woofie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: VanDeKoik

How did Cruz vote on Roberts? He wasn’t in the Senate at that time.


31 posted on 02/04/2016 10:09:47 AM PST by Rusty0604 (1q)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Rusty0604

“I’ve heard that ridiculous argument here on FR. Cruz, at the time Solicitor General of Texas, endorsed Roberts along with many other conservatives, yet he alone is responsible for Robert’s awful ACA decision.”

If any of those people run for office, then they should be. Deal?


32 posted on 02/04/2016 10:10:09 AM PST by VanDeKoik
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: concerned about politics

[Cruz stood alone on the Senate floor for 21 hours filibustering and trying to stop obomacare. Trump is an idiot. ]

And that accomplished... what??


33 posted on 02/04/2016 10:10:16 AM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Rusty0604

“How did Cruz vote on Roberts? He wasn’t in the Senate at that time.”

Would he have voted for him back then?

Are you seriously going to tell me no?


34 posted on 02/04/2016 10:10:45 AM PST by VanDeKoik
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: VanDeKoik

No, ANY conservative. You are saying every conservative in the country is friends with Roberts? What about Myers?


35 posted on 02/04/2016 10:10:56 AM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie
"Ted Cruz gave us Obamacare," says Donald Trump

And Trump wants to give us Trumpcare. Whoopee.

36 posted on 02/04/2016 10:10:58 AM PST by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie
Only from the Unscrupulous, fevered mind of TRUMP

A cruz supporter saying that about Trump, that's funny right there!
37 posted on 02/04/2016 10:12:04 AM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - Where sleazy meets creepy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: concerned about politics

“Cruz stood alone on the Senate floor for 21 hours filibustering and trying to stop obomacare”

So what we usually call kabuki theater.

Oh yeah....Cruz did that, so the rule is that it was a “brave and historic stand for liberty”. Completely forgot.


38 posted on 02/04/2016 10:12:15 AM PST by VanDeKoik
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: VanDeKoik

Did Cruz vote for Roberts?


39 posted on 02/04/2016 10:13:02 AM PST by pookie18 (9 months until the general election...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

The actual text of the Constitution, the intent of its drafters, logic, common sense, and the previously accepted rules of statutory construction are all now utterly irrelevant.

The Constitution now says whatever the Hell five out of nine Supreme Court Justices currently want it to say. IMHO, this is the primary issue in the election.

Four sitting Supreme Court Justices will be over 80 years old this year (Kennedy, Scalia, Ginsburg and Breyer). Of the remaining five Justices, two are young far left-wing Obama appointees who will be legislating from the bench for the next 30 to 40 years (Sotomayor and Kagan), two are reliable conservatives (Thomas and Alito) and the other is a flipper (Roberts).

I am betting that Obama will get to replace at least one of the octogenarian Justices (Ginsburg) and possibly two (Breyer) before he leave office. Ginsburg will step down immediately after the current Court term and if at least a couple of RINOs join with the Democrats to confirm Obama’s far left-wing replacement then Breyer will announce his retirement so that Obama will get to pick his far left-wing replacement as well. That would leave only two octogenarian Justices (Scalia and Kennedy) for the next President to replace, and four young, reliable far left-wing Justices firmly planted on the Court.

If any three of the four octogenarian Justices are replaced with liberals then a far left-wing oligarchy of Supreme Court Justices will rule over every aspect of our lives for the next generation to come. Say goodbye to the Second Amendment, free speech, and every other right that is currently hanging on by a 5 to 4 thread.

On the other hand, if any three of the octogenarians are replaced with strict construction conservatives, then they can join with Thomas and Alito and reverse Roe, homosexual marriage, Obamacare, and every other liberal Supreme Court decree over the past 40 years.

So, our only chance is for the Republicans to hold on to the Senate AND for us to elect a Conservative President who will only nominate Conservative judges. If Chuckie Schumer controls the Senate OR if we elect a President who appoints liberal or moderate judges, then our nations is well and truly screwed.


40 posted on 02/04/2016 10:13:31 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-142 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson