I wonder if Cruz stole enough votes from Carson to put him over the top? Cruz won by 6k votes. Does anyone have any idea of how many votes Cruz got by spreading the false story that Carson was dropping out after Iowa?
Stop with the stolen votes crap. Carson made a stupid decision when he didn’t think through the optics. Cruz was only reporting what he heard on CNN. Stolen votes is what Hillary does. Don’t equate this with that.
Cruz, Trump, and Rubio over Clinton and Sanders. Everything else is noise.
Stop with the stolen votes crap. Carson made a stupid decision when he didn’t think through the optics. Cruz was only reporting what he heard on CNN. Stolen votes is what Hillary does. Don’t equate this with that.
Cruz, Trump, and Rubio over Clinton and Sanders. Everything else is noise.
...how many votes Cruz got by spreading the false story that Carson was dropping out after Iowa?
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Stop with the BS. Cruz didn’t issue a false story or lie.
CNN reported that Carson was leaving Iowa and not going to NH or SC, but to his home in FL. Sen. King and staffers for Cruz just passed that info along (after the caucus had begun). ......CNN later reported Carson was not dropping out and that message was not passed on by Cruz staffers.
Cruz haters here on FR really amaze me when they jump on any hint of something that may disparaging against him.
“I wonder if Cruz stole enough votes from Carson to put him over the top?”........
I watched Trumps rally in New Hampshire and have to agree with him when he said something about Cruz’s campaign saying Carson “left the race”, If that is the type of political “gotcha” moves Cruz pulls, I don’t support him one bit. I support a politician that states the truth, if there ever IS one. Carson has every right to be pissed at Cruz and IMO Cruz owes Carson an apology, big time.
i live in Iowa, and I did not even hear about this until the story broke in the media.
I was at our local caucus, and I did not hear one peep about this from caucus goers monday night.
I think everyone has/had their mind already made up when they went in to their caucus site. This event did not affect the outcomes one iota, in my opinion.
of course, that is only my assessment of the situation.
Carson’s RCP average was 7.7% and he got 9.3%, a great jump, just over an 18% increase in vote share. (Cruz ended up winning with a 13.5% jump.) Carson got 17,395 votes, if Cruz “stole” 6,239 (the number of votes he won by) then Carson would have received 23,634, putting him at 12.6%. A giant jump over his 7.7% RCP average, in fact a 39% increase in vote share.
No way he had 39% more support than the polls were suggesting. Rubio ended up with 27% more, and that is correctly seen as a stunning result.
I was wondering the same thing but there is no means of getting the exact number of course. Carson finished with a high 9% rate and 17,395 votes. DT with 24% and 45,427 and Cruz with 28% and ooooOOOOOoooo 51,666. if I was Cruz I would ask for a recount just to get a few more or less votes.
however, everyone thinks that the carson votes went to cruz when they could have gone to rubio or dt. never know.
In searching I found an article on Christian Post that said when Trump was in church he got some $ out of his pocket when the communion plate was being passed around. I guess he wasn’t listening. He laughed about it and said he thought it was the offering plate. At least he laughed at himself.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-trump-communion-plate-thought-it-was-for-offering-156446/
Give it up, dude. Trump lost because he made poor decisions in the final weeks and didn’t invest in people on the ground. A month ago it looked like he had no chance in Iowa despite the national lead and in other early primary states. He made a huge surge in January and it looked like he might be able to run the table, but he did a combination of things to make that not true. If Cruz’s campaign got votes from Carson, it’s probably in single or double digits.
you know what else? I wonder if trump stopped beating his wives before or after he cheated on them?
(point being: Cruz never said anything about Carson leaving the race. His staffers did AFTER a CNN report. When Cruz learned of it, he dealt with it and apologized to Carson...try to be intellectually honest...for once)
According to the entrance polls taken as people entered the caucus (before they heard the incorrect report), the percentage of people planning to vote for Carson was 9%. After the caucus, the percentage of people that voted for Carson was 9%. So there was little to no effect on the outcome. As much as you would like to blame Trump's loss on some sort of chicanery, Trump managed to lose this one all on his own.