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1 posted on 02/02/2016 9:17:57 AM PST by C19fan
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Oh, HOGWASH !

When it comes to Marco "Gang of Eight AMNESTY Bill" Rubio, CRUZ WINS hands down.

Rubio stood with Barack Obama and Chuck Schemer and supported a massive amnesty plan.
They can't stop CRUZ.
Source:
    ... Cruz even indicated he would back deporting those who came here illegally -- another proposal he has usually rebuffed.

    "I would enforce the law," Cruz said, explaining that he would first deport criminals without proper papers.
    "Federal immigration law provides that
      if someone is here illegally and is apprehended,
      that they should be sent back to their home country."

    Cruz has recently begun stressing that he believes the number of undocumented immigrants would decrease with strict border enforcement.
    ...

    "The only people I'm under fire from are reporters who want to throw rocks," Cruz said in Harlan.
    "Once we've demonstrated that we can solve the problem, then we can have a conversation about what to do about whatever people remain illegally."

    The Rubio campaign ...
    "He has attempted to muddy the waters," Cruz said on the stage. "Where there was a battle over amnesty
    and some chose, like Sen. Rubio to stand with Barack Obama and Chuck Schemer
      and support a massive amnesty plan.
    Others chose to stand with Jeff Sessions and Steve King and the American people
      and secure the border."


Let's get VERY CLEAR on TED CRUZ and Immigration:
    Immigration

    As the son of a Cuban immigrant, Sen. Cruz celebrates LEGAL immigration.
    He has championed measures
      to secure the border,
      reform the LEGAL immigration system,
      and uphold the rule of law.

    Americans, and particularly Texans, have witnessed the harmful effects of an unsecure border,
      endangering the lives both of citizens and those who enter illegally.
    President Obama's policies have encouraged drug smugglers, child abusers, murderers, and other dangerous criminals to traffick immigrant children into our nation under life-threatening conditions.
    In the summer of 2013 we witnessed a humanitarian crisis at our Southern Border, propelled by PROMISES OF AMNESTY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE .
    Immigrants deserve a better system in which they will be welcomed to the United States safely and with dignity.

    As a critical step to protecting families and inviting more people to enter LEGALLY, in 2014, Sen. Cruz proposed legislation TO PREVENT OBAMA FROM ILLEGALLY EXPANDING AMNESTY .
    The House acted to solve the ongoing crisis and passed bills that closely mirrored Sen. Cruz’s proposals,
      but regrettably the Senate DemocRATS REFUSED TO ALLOW A VOTE on the measures.

    In 2013, Sen. Cruz proposed amendments to the "Gang of 8";bill that would
      strengthen border security,
      expand green card opportunities,
      increase high-skilled 'H1B'visas, PREVENT ILLEGAL ALIENS FROM RECEIVING WELFARE BENEFITS ,
      and enforce the rule of law.

ALSO from On The Issues :
    Ted Cruz on Immigration

    End Obama's illegal amnesty via Congress' checks & balances
    Q: How to respond to the split within your party on immigration?
    What you're saying is
      that the Republicans should vote to fund the governments for all departments except one:
        no funding for the Department of Homeland Security,
      which handles immigration, rescinding President Obama's executive action,
      and if he vetoes that, he's responsible for shutting down the department.
    The problem is
      that's almost exactly what you did with the government shutdown across the entire government in 2013 with ObamaCare,
      and it backfired badly on your party.

    CRUZ: All across this country, Republicans campaigned, saying:
      if you elect a Republican Senate, we will stop President Obama's illegal amnesty.
    We need to HONOR WHAT WE SAID .
    We should use the constitutional checks and balances that we have TO REIN IN THE ABUSE OF POWER OF THE EXECUTIVE.
      Step #1 is IF the president implements this LAWLESS AMNESTY, that THE SENATE WILL NOT CONFIRM ANY executive or judicial nominees.


    Defund amnesty; and refuse any nominees until rescinded

    Q: How would you rescind President Obama's executive action on immigration?

    CRUZ: We should use the constitutional checks and balances that we have TO REIN IN THE ABUSE OF POWER OF THE EXECUTIVE .
      Step #1 that I have called for is the incoming majority leader should announce IF the president implements this LAWLESS AMNESTY, that THE SENATE WILL NOT CONFIRM ANY executive or judicial nominees,
        other than VITALl national security positions,
      for the next two years,
      UNLESS AND UNTIL the president ENDS THIS LAWLESS AMNESTY .
    That is AN EXPLICIT AUTHORITY given TO the Senate.

    Q: Are you saying the Senate should REFUSE TO CONFIRM the president's new nominee for attorney general?

    CRUZ: We have to REIN IN the executive.
    And step #2, we've got is THE POWER OF THE PURSE,
      and we should FUND ONE AT A TIME the CRITICAL PRIORITIES of the federal government,
        but ALSO USE THE POWER OF THE PURSE TO ATTACH RIDERS .


    No path to citizenship for 1.65 million illegals in Texas

    When discussing what to do about the 1.65 million ILLEGAL immigrants living in Texas, . . . CRUZ again said
      HE DID NOT SUPPORT A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP FOR ILLEGAL immigrants living in America, . . .

      Give police more power to ask about immigration status

      Cruz accused Dewhurst of using his position as head of the Texas Senate to KILL A BILL last year that would have given police more power to ask anyone they detain about their citizenship status--a charge Dewhurst denied.
      Both agreed that the US has FAILED TO SECURE ITS BORDER with Mexico,
      and said they OPPOSE AMNESTY for ILLEGAL immigrants and the Obama administration's new directive
        allowing many young illegal immigrants brought to the US as children to be exempted from deportation.


      Boots on the ground, plus a wall

      Border wall: James and Leppert OPPOSE A WALL,
      Dewhurst and CRUZ tout "boots on the ground" AND A WALL IN SOME PLACES .


      Triple the size of the Border Patrol

      CRUZ on immigration: Wants to TRIPLE [the]SIZE of Border Patrol.
      Says Dewhurst supported in-state tuition for kids of ILLEGAL immigrants.
      Dewhurst: I have always been against an amnesty program.
        "If they want to be a citizen, they ought to go home and reapply."
      Dewhurst says he was against tuition for children of illegal immigrants.


      Strengthen border security and increase enforcement

      Ted Cruz has worked to STRENGTHEN BORDER SECURITY and help ensure that America remains a nation of laws.
      Among other efforts, he has worked on efforts to INCREASE PENALTIES for felons WHO ENTER THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY .
      Ted authored a U.S. Supreme Court amicus brief on behalf of 10 states in Lopez v. Gonzales,ILLEGALLY .




Let's take a close look at what TED CRUZ said at that time about his amendment to the "Gang of Eight amnesty/ citizenship bill" :

    Cruz In 2013 On Providing Legal Status To Illegal Immigrants ( 2:14 )

    Published on Nov 12, 2015

    U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, Hearing, 5/21/2013:
      "And I'd like to make a final point to those advocacy groups that are very engaged in this issue
      and rightly concerned about addressing our immigration system
      and, in particular, about addressing the situation for the 11 million who are currently in the shadows.
      If this amendment is adopted to the current bill, the effect would be that those 11 million under this current bill would still be eligible for RPI status.
      They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed, under the terms of the bill, they would be eligible for LPR status as well so that they are out of the shadows,
      which the proponents of this bill repeatedly point to as THEIR principal objective to provide a legal status for those who are here illegally to be out of the shadows.
      This amendment would allow that happen, ...

      "But what it would do, is it would REMOVE the pathway to citizenship, for REAL consequences that RESPECT the RULE OF LAW,
      and that treat LEGAL Immigrants with the fairness and respect they deserve,
      And a second point to those advocates that are so passionately engaged,
        In my view, if this committee rejects this amendment,
        and I think everyone here views that it is quite likely that this committee will indeed reject this amendment,

      In my view that decision will make it much, much more likely that this entire bill will FAIL in the House of Representatives.

      I don't want immigration reform to fail.
      I want immigration reform to pass.
      And so I would urge people of good faith on both sides of the aisle,
        if the objective is to pass common sense immigration reform that SECURES THE BORDERS, that improves LEGAL immigration, and that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows;
        then we should look for areas of bipartisan agreement and compromised to come together.
        And this amendment,
        I believe, if this amendment were to pass, the chances of this bill passing into law would increase dramatically."

The intent was TO EXPOSE the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" AND THE DemocRATS for their dishonesty.
THEY were trying to LEGISLATE the ILLEGAL ALIENS a PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP.

TED CRUZ was trying to amend the Bill so as TO STOP THEM,
    by REMOVING the pathway to citizenship,
    for REAL consequences that RESPECT the RULE OF LAW,

    and that treat LEGAL Immigrants with the fairness and respect they deserve.

2 posted on 02/02/2016 9:20:55 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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I’m not sure what is he smoking beside Cuban Cigars, but there is no way in HELL I would vote him, even if it is Rubio vs. Hilliary or Bernie.


3 posted on 02/02/2016 9:21:12 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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no


4 posted on 02/02/2016 9:21:35 AM PST by gusopol3
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If he's going to make that bridge he would have to come up with a solid anti-amnesty statement and do a heartfelt apology and admission about his gang of eight involvement.

The airwaves will be full of ads with Schumer, Durbin and Reid praising him back in 2013.

5 posted on 02/02/2016 9:22:00 AM PST by Baynative (If socialist democrat ideas are so good for people why must they be mandatory?)
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The only thing the smarmy used car salesman will ignite in me if he wins the nomination is to make sure my voting days are over.


6 posted on 02/02/2016 9:22:17 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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Hot Air, one of the properties of Salem Media.

We will be treated to non-stop Rubio from Hot Air, Redstate, Human Events, and all of the formerly independent conservative outlets that Salem has bought up.


7 posted on 02/02/2016 9:22:19 AM PST by Pelham (Barack Obama, loyal son of Islam and Alinsky)
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Hardly. Rubio will unite the GOPe.

He’ll stab conservatives squarely in the back, repeatedly, and before the election is even contested.

He campaigned on an anti-amnesty platform for the senate, to my understanding. How did that work out?


11 posted on 02/02/2016 9:23:54 AM PST by MortMan (I am offended by those who believe they have a right not to be offended.)
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I will not support nor vote for an amnesty pimp.


12 posted on 02/02/2016 9:23:57 AM PST by AmericanRobot
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Rubio wants to be the Kum Ba Yah candidate, instead of the reducing the size of government, securing the border and eliminating corruption candidate.

If you don't stand for anything you will fall for everything.

13 posted on 02/02/2016 9:24:54 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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We have had experience with people who call themselves “the uniter” before, and it has not always gone so well.

So, what is Marco Rubio going to bring to the table that should make us believe him, when so many others have made similar claims, but only came up short in diverse ways, and always with even greater divergency than ever?

Personally, I favor the proposition of splitting the territory once known as “the United States of America” into the majority and nearly contiguous “Red” nation, and a number of fragmented little “Blue” republics.


14 posted on 02/02/2016 9:27:06 AM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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Thanks Rubio, But McCain has that job.


16 posted on 02/02/2016 9:28:50 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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I am a Floridian and there is NO DAMN WAY I EVER VOTE FOR RUBIO AGAIN. If he is the best I can do I either stay home or vote for Hillary/Biden. I am sick of the GOPecrats. DONE HERE. At least I know Hillary will screw me. Rubio will lie and then stab me again in the back. Not this girl.


18 posted on 02/02/2016 9:30:06 AM PST by Cats Pajamas (When Hill and Bill trot out the rent-a-dogs and grandbaby in a stroller then you know she's sweating)
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Sadly, Rush is pushing Rubio today. Says he's conservative, and between Cruz and Rubio, conservatives got over 50 percent. Except Rubio is no conservative. He toes the line on every establishment position when push comes to shove, even when he says conservative things. And then there's amnesty, the number one thing that would cause extinction of the conservative cause, and America, and Rubio is all in on that.

He's no conservative, he's a phony who has been exposed. Very sad that Rush is pushing him now. I think Rush is willing to settle for Rubio and fears that Cruz will fade. I'm not willing to settle for Rubio. He and the establishment must be destroyed, their party taken over in a hostile takeover by the people. If they maneuver Rubio into the nomination, a. he will lose big time and b. we are done, just as Schlafly says. If he were to win, we are done, after his amnesty passed in record time.

It's Trump or Cruz or Annie.

21 posted on 02/02/2016 9:31:27 AM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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Voting for you, Rubio, would be like voting for another 4 years of Obama. You are a worthless, corrupt and incompetent RINO.


23 posted on 02/02/2016 9:31:59 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM HAVING VIOLENT GHWB FLASHBACKS!!!!!

25 posted on 02/02/2016 9:34:50 AM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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Rubio: I’ll be the Great Uniter

Hey, that's what Obama said; he turned out to be just the opposite.

He also was not eligible to become president.

He also hated the USA, and despised US citizens.

He also was a racist who hated white people.

He also was a homo prostitute, then later a political prostitute.

26 posted on 02/02/2016 9:35:19 AM PST by meadsjn
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Rubio WILL be the great uniter,
uniting Mexico with the US.


28 posted on 02/02/2016 9:35:39 AM PST by kik5150 (Cruz argued 9 times before Supreme Court judges. Trump argues with beauty pageant judges.)
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Want to make everyone on this thread really puke?

If Rubio somehow manages to win this....just watch.

He will put Kasich on the ticket.

Because that’s the SMART ticket (FL/OH).

Just watch...


30 posted on 02/02/2016 9:36:27 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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Rubio is GOP establishment.. all the way! He will unify those who will become establishment people.. not Conservatives who are fed up with establishment. Look at Fox.. they are ALL RUBIO.

Rubio votes with the establishment, he lives with the establishment, he wants to keep the illegals in the country. He talks a different tune when he’s running for President.. and he’s a good talker.. he can easily fool those who want to be tickled with words.

Rubio cast the deciding vote to give obama the trade deal.. and he was paid $3.9 mil for that vote. He can be bought by special interest.. and to hell with the people out here. We’d be right back in the GOP soup if Rubio is elected.

Voting for Rubio gives mcconnell and the GOP the message that we are not angry.. that we approve of the way the GOP is doing things.. and it’s the whole WRONG message! They don’t get it and they’ll never get it if rubio continues to hold his own or gain in numbers/votes.


33 posted on 02/02/2016 9:44:28 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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"Kid" Rubio was all to happy to snuggle up with Establishment Rinos and Democrats to push Amnesty & path to Citizenship for illegal immigrants.

"Kid" Rubio is exactly what the Establish Elite want, someone they can mold into their image.

34 posted on 02/02/2016 9:47:08 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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