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Iowa Caucus Live Thread
2/1/16

Posted on 02/01/2016 3:07:17 PM PST by markomalley

A search shows that nobody's opened up a live thread for tonight's caucuses. So here goes.

Predictions? For both the GOP and Dem nominations?

Eyewitness Accounts? See any funny business going on?


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 55738337; canadian; cruz; diebythepolls; effinglazishereagain; ia2016; ineligible; iowa; iowacaucus; livebythepolls; liveiowacaucus; trump4subsidies; trumplost
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To: 11th_VA
Steve King is on stage with Cruz, that means a lot ...

He's a great guy! So upbeat. So positive. So pro-life!
3,421 posted on 02/01/2016 8:44:30 PM PST by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: 21twelve

I’m not a Cruz guy. I’m leaning Rubio but Ithe worst thing about him is the Gang of Eight. Cruz did the right thing by stopping it, and attempts to twist that into him actually supporting amnesty are just politics, not the truth.


3,422 posted on 02/01/2016 8:44:49 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: PA Engineer

Would be wonderful if the country is turning more conservative. But I sure don’t trust the switch-over voting.

And really prefer the paper ballots! Computer numbers can be more easily manipulated I think.


3,423 posted on 02/01/2016 8:44:51 PM PST by Cedar
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To: visualops

Right. At the last minute, a couple of polls came out claiming he was surging. Why? It worries me to think people will chicken out and vote establishment.


3,424 posted on 02/01/2016 8:44:55 PM PST by Proudcongal
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To: visualops

You’ll have a hard time selling it to me.

The guy is a great guy but this aint his thingy


3,425 posted on 02/01/2016 8:45:16 PM PST by mylife
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To: Proudcongal

Sanders speaking on CNN.


3,426 posted on 02/01/2016 8:45:20 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
Cruz and Trump are 1 delegate apart.

You know, I made this same point several times when Trump was leading the polls - that the total number of delegates would not be that different whomever won. But for some reason at that point, with Trump leading, the Trump supporters kept insisting that if Trump won it would be YUUUUGE because of the momentum the winner would get coming out of Iowa. So does that argument only apply if Trump is the winner?

3,427 posted on 02/01/2016 8:45:29 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: jjsheridan5
The worst part: the entire DC establishment is breathing a huge sigh of relief, right now.

Rubio's "surge" took the votes from Trump. What does that say about the DC establishment's candidate(s)?

3,428 posted on 02/01/2016 8:45:48 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: altura

Like I said enjoy this week with Ted, Trump’s 28 pt lead in NH is not going away. Or his lead in SC. :-)


3,429 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:02 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: visualops

He is regarded as having won the last debate and was the obvious go to for the more establishment voters. I was not surprised.


3,430 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:11 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: visualops

“It ain’t great right now”

America IS Great! No amount of the egomaniac LOSER calling it otherwise won’t make it so. Get on with the times. Join the winning team.


3,431 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:12 PM PST by sagar (Trump can't win. Cruz can't lose.)
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To: drewh

I thought Draft Dodger was a DIRTY WORD. Especially to Vietnam Veterans. My late husband got his, and then enlisted in the USAF for 4 yrs. So did many of my cousins who were Army, Navy, Marine and USAF. One still limps to this day from being shot in the knee.

Photos show Donald Trump in military uniform, with athletic teams before dodging the Vietnam draft with ‘bull-—t’ injury
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/photos-show-trump-military-garb-dodging-draft-article-1.2298248

Questions linger about Trump’s draft deferments during Vietnam War

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/questions-linger-about-trumps-draft-deferments-during-vietnam-war/2015/07/21/257677bc-2fdd-11e5-8353-1215475949f4_story.html

Donald Trump, draft dodger, goes after John McCain, war hero
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-le-0721-tuesday-donald-trump-mccain-20150721-story.html

Donald Trump avoided Vietnam with deferments, records show
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-avoided-vietnam-with-deferments-records-show/

F Bomb Dropper
Products made in China
Donald Trump’s Own Secret: Vietnam Draft Records
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-vietnam-draft-records-secret-documents-deferments/story?id=13492639

2 S to 4 F deferment.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/trump-draft-deferment


3,432 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:13 PM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: altura

It’s a whole different world when you leave Iowa. It’s time now to go to the real America.


3,433 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:13 PM PST by mrsalty
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To: PA Engineer

Nothing is wrong. The dems run their Caucus in an electoral college fashion.


3,434 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:21 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: tennmountainman

I’m with you, NH next. I do worry about the media manipulating polls tomorrow. They’re masters of the game. Only reason they haven’t been able to up to now is that Trump’s numbers have been too big.

If Cruz & Rubio can pull enough to look legit we might be hit with another media campaign.


3,435 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:33 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: CA Conservative

Ohh, Cruz just cut Hillary and Bern down sweetly.


3,436 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:43 PM PST by LowOiL ("Let us do evil that good may come"? ....condemnation is just - Romans 3:8)
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To: Fledermaus

Thanks. That’s a big difference between Republican numbers and Democrat delegates.


3,437 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:49 PM PST by Girlene
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To: TigerClaws

I have no idea what you are getting at.

Trump isn’t ‘winner’ at the moment. He lost. It’s going to cost him the ‘cult of personality’ vote. It’s going to hurt.

People will show up for his big show. No doubt about that. I would. I hear it’s a heck of a show. In the primary Cruz will get my vote.

If trump threw a party giving out food - I’d eat it. My primary vote is still going to Cruz.


3,438 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:57 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Citizens on the Bounce!)
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To: CA Conservative

Rubio’s performance is the only real momentum.

Cruz and Trump were already on track.

Rubio now pushes aside all the other GOPe candidates.

It’s a big win for Cruz. I’d be happy with Cruz as the nominee. Long way to go.

Enjoy the win!


3,439 posted on 02/01/2016 8:46:59 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Mase
Weren't you the one making fun of Cruz because he was talking to rooms of 20 people while Trump was holding rallies for thousands?

Yup, and that's still true. Trump's rallies in Iowa were always smaller than anywhere else in the country, though still huge, considering Trump has more votes than Santorum or Romney did in 2012. Cruz barely won in Iowa and had to do it by telling Carson voters that Carson was dropping out, and lying to his supporters about Trump's healthcare positions with his caucus precinct captains, and even despite that still couldn't pull off a big win. Cruz is behind Trump so badly in New Hampshire that Cruz could absorb all the votes from the 2 people beneath him and still lose.

See you in New Hampshire, chumps!

3,440 posted on 02/01/2016 8:47:05 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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