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HOROWITZ: TRUMP REVEALS HIS LIBERAL HEART [Still pushing socialism, government dependence]
Conservative Review ^ | 1-31-2016 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 02/01/2016 12:32:54 PM PST by dangus

Republicans have always specialized in running candidates that accept the most important premises of liberal governance and make themselves indistinguishable from their Democrat counterparts. They should patent their pale pastels, which blend in so effectively there is no discernable ink contrasting their talking points to Democrat policies.

In 2012, Republicans concocted a brilliant electoral plan. In a race fought over healthcare, they managed to nominate the only human being in America who implemented Obamacare before President Obama did. Now that the Democrat front-runner is Hillary Clinton, the original god-mother of single-payer healthcare, Republicans are on the cusp of nominating the one man in the GOP who has long championed Marxist healthcare policies.

In case anyone thought Donald Trump has indeed undergone a cathartic change since deciding to run for president and is no longer promoting New York values, he wants everyone to know if you oppose universal healthcare, you don’t have a heart. Here is what he told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos this morning:

We’re going to work with our hospitals. We’re going to work with our doctors. We’ve got to do something. You can’t have a — a small percentage of our economy, because they’re down and out, have absolutely no protection so they end up dying from, you know, what you could have a simple procedure or even a pill. You can’t do that. We’ll work something out. That doesn’t mean single payer. And I mean, maybe he’s got no heart. And if this means I lose an election, that’s fine, because, frankly, we have to take care of the people in our country. We can’t let them die on the sidewalks of New York or the sidewalks of Iowa or anywhere else.

Somehow Trump “opposes” Obamacare, but believes that if you don’t champion something similar to it you have no heart. He declined to defend “single-payer,” which he championed for years, but left out the fact that he praised Canada and Scotland’s dysfunctional Marxist system during one of the early presidential debates.

What’s worse than Trump’s support for the Democrat position on healthcare (wait, how is he going to debate Hillary again?) is the way he articulates this position. He uses the most antiquated tool in the Marxist/Alinsky shed, which is to play on emotions over intelligence, thereby achieving neither sound policy nor compassionate outcomes. Let’s not even discuss the constitutional powers of government; evidently that is never a factor with Trump.

Had Trump spent more time studying the government he seeks to run instead of pandering for the endorsements of Bob Dole and his less charismatic mini-me, Terry Branstad, The Donald would understand that we already spend hundreds of billions on Medicaid, S-Chip, and an array of state programs for those who would “die on the sidewalks” because they have no money. Medicaid alone will cost us $350 billion this year. The “dying on the sidewalk” Alinsky argument is a non-sequitur. The real question is what happens with the rest of us. Either we are all forced into single-payer, which has been Trump’s long-standing position. Or we are forced into something similar to Obamacare’s coverage mandates that he won’t specify. Here are the results of such a plan from my personal experience:

This is the outcome of a liberal “heart” in which no middle class family will be able to afford health insurance with dignity. When you pursue increased coverage at the expense of reducing costs you achieve neither objective. I can’t wait to see the premiums under Trump-care. Then again, under single-payer the problems will go much further than health insurance but will spill over to healthcare itself. Perhaps he will then take his rode show onto universal housing, college, and transportation.

Doesn’t Trump’s Alinsky thought process on healthcare sound awfully similar to his immigration views he harbored prior to running for president?

Many of us who believe immigration is the single most important issue have tolerated Trump’s New York values on many critical issues so that we could engage in the long-overdue discussion of national sovereignty. But as Trump devotes less time to immigration (shocker!) and promotes one left-wing idea and talking point after another, the circus has come full circle. Moreover, doesn’t Trump’s Alinsky thought process on healthcare sound awfully similar to his immigration views he harbored prior to running for president?

“You have to give them a path and you have to make it possible for them to succeed…“You have to do that.” “How do you throw somebody out that’s lived in the country for 20 years?...You just can’t throw them out.”

Again, it’s not just the positions he took in recent years that are problematic, it’s the way he expressed them. Trump’s comments are not taken out of context; they are clearly coming from a deep-rooted liberal intuition on the most critical issues facing our nation. You might even say they come from the “heart.”

As someone who has fought for national sovereignty over the past decade I can tell you there is no such thing as a politician who is to the left of Susan Collins on most issues but is somehow aligned with Jeff Sessions on immigration. If you believe that in your heart I have some property to sell you in Ciudad Juárez.


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This is the reason I oppose Trump: he's a liberal. That's the beginning and end of it.

As you read this, keep in mind that Trump has repeatedly stated -- and the mainstream press hasn't called him out on it YET -- that he feels American wages are too high. Not salaries. Not minimum wages. Average wages. He's not satisfied that American wages are far lower than Germany, Canada or Japan. He's upset that they get paid more than China, Mexico or India.

How many tens of millions more Americans does Trump want to put on government-subsidized health care?

And given that married people almost never qualify for government assistance (because they're earnings are pooled), how many more millions of married couples will decide they can't afford kids, while those who are government-dependent raise their kids on your dime?

1 posted on 02/01/2016 12:32:54 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Daniel Horwitz is an idiot


2 posted on 02/01/2016 12:33:35 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump then Cruz for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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To: dangus

“Conservative” Review is Mark Levin’s rag....

That in and of itself should tell you what to expect when/if you read this article.


3 posted on 02/01/2016 12:34:38 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: stocksthatgoup

Thank you for your articulate, reasoned rebuttal.


4 posted on 02/01/2016 12:36:49 PM PST by dangus
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To: stocksthatgoup

Doesn’t matter what Horowitz is Trumps core is pure Manhattan.


5 posted on 02/01/2016 12:37:02 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: dangus

Levin has lost it with me


6 posted on 02/01/2016 12:39:49 PM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: stocksthatgoup
Daniel Horwitz is an idiot.

Wow, I didn't see that coming. /s It's Horowitz, by the way.

7 posted on 02/01/2016 12:41:29 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: dangus

Facts:

1) Except in the very odd/exceptional election year of 1964, the Dems haven’t cracked 50% of the whites in a Presidential election since 1932.

2) Once the ‘64 election was over, the Dems understood that they would never win another Presidential election again unless the Republicans REALLY screwed up...or unless they changed the electorate in a dramatic way.

3) The Dems, courtesy of Bobby Kennedy who wrote the law, and Teddy Kennedy who pushed it in the Senate, passed the 1965 Immigration Act. That law dramatically reduced immigration from our then-traditional large sources of immigrants - England, Ireland, Holland, Germany, etc. - and replaced them with vast numbers of Turd Worlders...whom everyone knows vote around 80% for Dems, and will continue to do so for the rest of their lives, as new immigrants have traditionally done.

4) As a result of the ‘65 Act, and due to the Dem’s outright lying in ‘86 regarding an effective (or any) fence, there are now probably 30 - 40 million illegals in this nation. Note that the (probably low-ball) figure in 2005 was 11 million...we have 2-3 million come in every year, so simple math says that the number is actually somewhere between 31 and 41 million). If any substantial portion of these people ever become citizens, then the Dems will have accomplished a complete shift of the electorate, and will be virtually invincible on the national level. Every state will become like California, both politically and economically - which is to say, overwhelming Dem and broke. But at least if you don’t like California now, you can leave for a better place without much trouble - where are you going to go if EVERY state is like that?

5) Every Republican, and every Conservative voter MUST UNDERSTAND that if such a state of affairs comes to be, NO OTHER ISSUE WILL MATTER AT ALL, because we will ALWAYS AND FOREVER lose on those issues. Immigration is THE issue of this election, and this election is as critical as the 1860 election was - and for the same reason, because it will determine whether this nation continues on as it has existed in the past, or becomes a new and unrecognizable entity that simply occupies the same geographic territory.

Please wake up, and help others to do so by sending them this post (or recommending “Adios America” to them). It really is THAT important.


9 posted on 02/01/2016 12:44:56 PM PST by Ultima
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To: dangus

10 posted on 02/01/2016 12:45:17 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: dangus
But, but that's the 'old' Trump.

He's evolved.

/s

11 posted on 02/01/2016 12:46:45 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: BigEdLB

Levin is a treasure to conservatism and so is Daniel Horowitz. Hiding from the truth does not make it go away.


12 posted on 02/01/2016 12:48:44 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: dangus

For YEARS I have been pointing out a problem with our healthcare system that Republicans have outright ignored.

Let me give you some examples:

- my son. Diagnosed with T1 diabetes at age 10. Without Obamacare, he’d be off our insurance at age 18. When we looked into him purchasing his own insurance... $3000 a MONTH. That’s for an 18 year old just starting out.

- my daughter’s classmate. Turned 18 and was kicked off his parents’ insurance while he went to college. Started having fainting spells and seizures. Started bleeding from one ear. Started having fluid dripping out of that ear. His freaking BRAIN was leaking into his ear canal. Couldn’t get help. Tried to join the army to get insurance and fainted during MEPS.

- my friend. Had brain cancer as a child. At 4 years old, they gave him surgery and chemo and he recovered completely. At age 18, NOBODY would insure him. Ended up joining the army for medical care.

- my mother. Relatively healthy. Got a new job as a CNA at the age of 55. Insurance didn’t kick in for 6 months. By month three, something was going terribly wrong. She couldn’t work and she couldn’t afford a doctor. She ended up losing her home and all of her possessions and I moved her in with me. Couldn’t get her social services because she didn’t have a diagnosis... because she couldn’t afford a dr and all of the tests. Collapsed and nearly died of a thyroid storm. THAT got her disability and she finally got help.

These are just a very few problems faced by the ‘working poor’ and these problems are very real.

Children who get sick shouldn’t have to deal with the ‘pre-existing condition’ issue once they turn 18. There’s no TIME to put together a career or get through college so that they can get onto an employer’s plan. An adult who’s too sick to work shouldn’t be denied medical care.

The old system was broken. Obamacare has serious issues and must be replaced with something better, but at least it did address that one thing.

Republicans refused to acknowledge the problems. Obamacare solved them stupidly.

We cannot go back to the days where Republican’s bury their heads in the sand and ignore serious problems because of ‘bootstrap principles’. Sometimes problems are simply too big for an individual to manage alone or for a family to help. (Think hubs and can afford to help our son out with a $3000 a month premium plus deductible and co-pays?! WHO can afford that?!)


13 posted on 02/01/2016 12:50:19 PM PST by Marie (TRUMP TRUTH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg)
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To: Ultima

Fact: when a nation accepts pre-born genocide it is unforgivable to God. You can say let’s make America great again all you want but without God’s blessing it is over. Do you know what happened when Judah did it? Invasion. What was it you thought is the most important issue? Invasion. Symptom.


14 posted on 02/01/2016 12:54:55 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

More white noise. I don’t even listen to it anymore. Go Trump!


15 posted on 02/01/2016 12:54:57 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: dangus
Lost a lot of respect for these people in the "Conservative" media who have decided shameless lying is an acceptable campaign tactic.

What Trump actually said.

"If somebody has no money and they're lying in the middle of the street and they're dying, I'm going to take care of that person," Trump said.

16 posted on 02/01/2016 12:55:06 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: dangus

The funny thing is... I think Trump would really latch on to conservatism if he would sit still long enough for someone to explain it to him.


17 posted on 02/01/2016 12:56:23 PM PST by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: MNJohnnie

Stop it. Trump said he supported a single payer system, paid for by the US taxpayer. Here is Trump’s EXACT statement, word-for-word:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/28/trump-pushes-single-payer-healthcare-tax-increase-on-wealthy/

The fact Trump wants a healthcare “solution” more socialist than Obama is not up for dispute. It’s a fact.


18 posted on 02/01/2016 12:57:27 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Shameless lying is not a Conservative value. When people decided it ok to shamelessly lie because they think it advances their candidate’s cause, they, not the target, have abandoned Conservatism.


19 posted on 02/01/2016 12:57:43 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Marie

You’re being unfair to Republicans. They haven’t done crap to replace Obamacare with their own plans, but they have proposed several strong ideas that would solve the problems you bring up. And allowing young adults children to remain on their family’s plans is one that few have tried to repeal.

(By the way... I hate that it’s so easy to be nothing more than jousting opponents on FR. I work for a non-profit where I deal with so many people explaining why they can’t afford to give, and their letters so often read like yours. I pray it never stops saddening me, and much more relevantly, that your loved ones find the help and healing they need.)


20 posted on 02/01/2016 12:57:50 PM PST by dangus
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