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To: DoughtyOne
Oh, so you don't believe that. Upon what is your belief based? Have you done any research at all? Have you looked into what the Medicaid thresholds are/were? Or are you just basing your dogmatic opinion on...what, a guess? That's nice.

Well, here's one place to start. This is from 2012, the Social Security Administration, and discusses Medicaid pre-Obamacare:

Until 2014, when the Affordable Care Act will expand Medicaid eligibility, Medicaid does not provide medical assistance for all poor persons. Under the broadest provisions of the federal statute, Medicaid does not currently provide health care services even for very poor persons unless they are in one of the groups designated below.

Low income is only one test for Medicaid eligibility for most of those within these groups; their financial resources also are tested against threshold levels (as determined by each state within federal guidelines)....

The following enumerates the mandatory Medicaid "categorically needy" eligibility groups for which federal matching funds are provided:

Limited-income families with children, as described in section 1931 of the Social Security Act, are generally eligible for Medicaid if they meet the requirements for the Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) program that were in effect in their state on July 16, 1996.

Children under age 6 whose family income is at or below 133 percent of the FPL. (As of January 2012, the FPL has been set at $23,050 for a family of four in the continental U.S.; Alaska and Hawaii's FPLs are $28,820 and $26,510, respectively.)

Pregnant women whose family income is below 133 percent of the FPL. (Services to these women are limited to those related to pregnancy, complications of pregnancy, delivery, and postpartum care.)

Infants born to Medicaid-eligible women, for the first year of life with certain restrictions.

Supplemental Security Income (SSI) recipients in most states (or aged, blind, and disabled individuals in states using more restrictive Medicaid eligibility requirements that pre-date SSI).

Recipients of adoption or foster care assistance under Title IV-E of the Social Security Act.

Special protected groups (typically individuals who lose their cash assistance under Title IV-A or SSI because of earnings from work or from increased Social Security benefits, but who may keep Medicaid for a period of time). All children under age 19, in families with incomes at or below the FPL.

Certain Medicare beneficiaries (described later).

https://www.socialsecurity.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/supplement/2012/medicaid.html

So as you can see -- just for starters -- adult men and women without kids weren't covered. Period.

The other cutoffs, including AFDC, were set at 133% of the federal poverty line, and that's where they still are in many cases.

Here is a specific example of current law from the State of Indiana's own government website, showing eligibility for Indiana's Medicaid Program called Healthy Indiana:

http://bloomington.in.gov/documents/viewDocument.php?document_id=2334

WHO IS ELIGIBLE? Indiana Residents ages 19-64 with incomes up to $16,297 annually for an individual, $21,967 for a couple or $33,307 for a family of four are generally eligible to participate in HIP 2.0.

Now this is post-Obamacare, so it includes an expansion to all adults, unlike pre-Obamacare (which is what Trump has said he will appeal). Even so, if you make $16,300, you are not eligible. Which means you'd have to buy your own health insurance, and pay all the out of pocket costs, while making less than $1400/month pre-tax.

So, you still think everyone is covered? Because I've got a bargaining unit I can introduce you to that will set you straight on that.

229 posted on 02/01/2016 11:00:16 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

You’re a riot.

They’re means tested. Who knew?

What did I say in my post?

Oh yes, I said the were means tested.

Thanks for clearing up that they’re means tested. Is it any wonder folks have such a great opinion of attorneys.

So it’s your considered opinion that Medicaid is never available to any adult?

Maybe you should talk to your crew.


239 posted on 02/01/2016 11:15:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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