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To: Gene Eric
This CHART has been tossed out on the forum for four months or more.

Look at those dings on Trump.

Ted is marked as being able to do better on the budget than Trump.

If Ted has every had to review an extensive budget, I don't know abou it.

Trump has had over 40 years watching is own bottom line, and making sure it remained positive.  He has a number of super top rate finance men that have volunteered to work in the White House for free, to help get the budget under control, and start paying down the national debt.  And yet Levin marked Trump off for Budget, Spending, and Debt.  That's not even close to reality.

On what Basis was Ted marked good on those things?  He has not experience at all.

Civil liberties?  What is Levin talking about there?  Illegal Aliens, and Trumps plan to send them home?  He's going to trash Trump for that?  Not allowing terrorists to come to our soil.  He's going to ding him for that (Syrian Refugees)?

Then there's Free Markets.  We are losing our shirt on trade.  We have between 40 and 90 million out of work right now, and Levin seems to think that's better than making sure trade is fair, and our citizens have jobs.  He even dings Cruz on that one.  Levin is just way off base on this, to be charitable.

Health Care and Entitlements?  Another Red?  This is crazy.  Trump is going to work with Congress to end Obamacare, and replace it with a robust private sector replacement.  Leving should have know that almost eight months ago.

What moral issues is he referring to there?  Trump has said he would defund Planned Parenthood.  He later said he would only defund the abortion part of the agency, but we all know it's totally abortion driven, so he'll find that out and the agency will be addressed.  Levin knows this.  He is playig very fast and loose here with Trump, and it isn't reasoned.

Trump has a position paper on the Second Amendment.  It is deemed by everyone to be a great outline.  He promotes CCW people to use their permit to make the country safer.  Leving is not being honest here, and I don't appreciate it.

Trump has a tax plan that most people think moves us in a very good direction.  Eveyrone gets a tax cut except for the upper scale.  Corporations are going to get some relief so they can bring their money home from overseas, so this will balance out.

So this chart is very flawed.  Levin should never have put it up.  And this Isara guy should not have been posting it here since October or perhaps before.



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106 posted on 01/30/2016 11:44:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Please don’t play dumb on your candidate’s position and record.

Civil liberties - Trump wants the NSA spying restores and said he’s ok if the NSA listens on his phone calls. Calls Snowden a traitor.

Health care - Trump said “sorry, conservatives, but we have to cover everybody.” He wants universal health care with the government filling in any gaps for anybody who doesn’t get private sector coverage.

Moral values - Seriously? Trump is all about New York Values. He brags about committing adultery. His children came out in support of same-sex marriage and he told Stern he’s against it, but “could change his mind.” He said he was for partial-birth abortion but then tries to convince us he flip-flopped to pro-life. He tries to posture himself as a religious Christian but no one buys it.


172 posted on 01/31/2016 12:59:52 AM PST by JediJones ("How stupid are the people of Iowa?" -Donald Trump, November 12, 2015)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thanks for the details.

Yes, I’ve seen the chart. And it’s obviously biased. Dramatic hand-waving has proven to be an unreliable metric for most anything. If the chart is in fact based on Levin’s rhetorical hype, whoever’s responsible for the aggregate is either ignorant of Levin’s emotions, or deceitfully exploiting the trust of Mark’s audience.

In general, I agree with your points. I recently stated that Cruz is the better technician, and Trump the better leader. But either as POTUS works for me.


220 posted on 01/31/2016 7:45:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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