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To: MamaTexan
I know we're familiar enough to each other you don't automatically assume I'm a muslim apologist of some kind.

I don't think that is the problem they have. Lacking the knowledge of legal means to expel Islam under the First Amendment, they invoke Lincoln's "the Constitution isn't a suicide pact" "clause" as an excuse to take their means outside it, when such isn't necessary once one remembers the Preamble. Out of a legitimate sense of urgency, they don't look at the eventual unintended consequences. They're always there. Just like abortion serves a (to them) "useful" demographic purpose (affecting mainly welfare babies), what it does to us is much worse.

True, but therin lies the crux of the matter - if we accept the obvious by acknowledging ours is a Christian nation,

I don't think that is necessary to the proof. Islam has uniquely disqualifying attributes, as are manifested in its behavior, simply from a mechanistic perspective. They MUST kill or force into submission followers of ALL other religions under penalty of death, meaning that for the dhimmitude there is no possibility of free exercise. Islam alone allows no other belief enforced on pain of death; it is the ultimate vow. Yes, I know that it tolerates "people of the book" to exist, but there is no equal treatment under the law. Even Judaism acknowledges other people who follow other gods without meaning to kill them all if they don't worship the G_d of Abraham. The only restriction there is that the Torah specifies there may not be any followers of any other gods within Israel itself except as visitors.

Sometime I'd love to go over Genesis 16 with you. It would blow your mind. Send me a FReepmail if you're interested.

I think in order to avoid such philosophical conundrums, the country would be better served by targeting nationality, not religion.

It's easier, but it won't work, or as we say in mathematics, necessary but not sufficient. Sometimes, forcing oneself to face said conundra is the path we must take. C'mon, you know you'd like that anyway. ;-)

134 posted on 01/31/2016 9:04:00 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie; MamaTexan

Islamics can also pretend to assimilate in Canada or England, etc, as an ‘ID-laundering’ method before coming to the US.

The tecnical side of immigration is tricky.


157 posted on 02/01/2016 6:21:04 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Cruz and Trump FRiends strongest when we don't insult each other.)
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To: MamaTexan
I haven't heard from you on this, but out of the hope you've had time to muse, I thought I'd try another prompt at a reply. You: True, but therin lies the crux of the matter - if we accept the obvious by acknowledging ours is a Christian nation,

Me:I don't think that is necessary to the proof. Islam has uniquely disqualifying attributes, as are manifested in its behavior, simply from a mechanistic perspective. They MUST kill or force into submission followers of ALL other religions under penalty of death, meaning that for the dhimmitude there is no possibility of free exercise. Islam alone allows no other belief enforced on pain of death; it is the ultimate vow.

To which I might add, adherence to Islam is a claim for the license to wield power in violation of the unalienable rights of all other citizens. The Shahada is its declaration and binding oath, to simple to simply subsume. You: I think in order to avoid such philosophical conundrums, the country would be better served by targeting nationality, not religion.

Me: It's easier, but it won't work, or as we say in mathematics, necessary but not sufficient. Sometimes, forcing oneself to face said conundra is the path we must take. C'mon, you know you'd like that anyway. ;-)

Thoughts?
165 posted on 02/07/2016 6:20:08 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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