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To: nevergore
On the flip side, Cruz supporters are very angry in their responses, close to “you’re a giant poopy-head” if you state anything negative about Cruz or support anyone other candidate.....

I'm not angry. I'm befuddled. Why in the world would FReepers support a NYC far left wing progressive just because he SAYS he's conservative? If Bloomburg SAID he saw the Conservative light and decided to run, would FReepers be as enthusiastic for him as they are for Trump?

By his fruits ye will know him!

I understand support for any other candidate, because at least they have a history of being somewhat conservative. It makes big a difference. I completely understand a FREeper can have a middle ground for how much Conservatism they'll except. but I don't understand the support for Trumps fake Conservatism on this scale. It doesn't make sense.


43 posted on 01/29/2016 11:19:19 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Maybe because he’s not what you think....

He’s changed his position on several critical issues as he has evolved from a CEO into a politician....

He’s a very effective CEO that will get things done....

If he is all you think he is, there should be a line-up of ex-employees with complaints...haven’t seen any....In fact, even his chief political counsel that he fired early on in his campaign only has praise for him.

He may not have the pure credentials of a conservative like Cruz but he has other critical qualifications that Cruz doesn’t possess. Both would be equally acceptable.

As I stated, I don’t have a vote yet and I’m waiting to see how this plays out, either Cruz or Trump would be qualified.

The good news for us, both will totally disrupt the GOPe leadership and the RINO’s are running scared....

Either way we take back the party from the establishment....


45 posted on 01/29/2016 11:41:23 AM PST by nevergore
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To: concerned about politics

You act as if you actually know something about Trump, while evincing no sign at all of having any understanding of Trump’s overall political positions in the past. Like so many who are misrepresenting Trump because they hate him, you take specific quotes or points out of context on a limited number of issues and avoid noticing his previous conservative stances.

Let me help educate you about Trump’s past positions that he promoted actively and often enthusiastically and repeatedly [with sources in brackets]. Already by the 1980s he was talking about remedying the trade imbalance and high national debt [full-page ad in NY Times; several interviews, inc. one with Oprah], cracking down on crime, being loudly pro-police and pro-death penalty [another full-page ad in the NY Times; later a full chapter in his book, The America We Deserve], for fighting government wastefulness and ineptitude, and for less regulations on business [The Art of the Deal, esp. Wollman rink story; later revisited in depth in The America We Deserve including a call for lower taxes and a new word, “burons” (a combination of “bureaucrat” and “moron”)].

By 2000, he was also for cracking down hard on terrorism (which he saw as a big growing threat) and calling out the damage that teachers unions and federal centralization were doing to the education system [some of the main focuses in The America We Deserve]. Already in 2000 too, he was talking about the dangers of an open border and he said he was for a ban on partial birth abortion (he changed his mind immediately after the Russert interview Cruz is touting) [once more, The America We Deserve]. By 2011, he was calling for a border wall and deportation of criminals, the repeal of Obamacare, and was for strengthening the military, but using it more judiciously [his book, Time to Get Tough]. In 2013, he said the amnesty bill was a “monstrosity” and would be the death of the Republican Party [multiple tweets and his CPAC speech]. What in the world is your definition of “conservative” if these are the positions of a “far left wing progressive” who doesn’t even have a “history of being somewhat conservative”?


52 posted on 01/29/2016 2:35:00 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: concerned about politics

Trump is willing to expose crap, and the 2008 coup and its aftermath have been nothing but crap.

I like Cruz for actual governance, but I like Trump for exposing the crap. So how do I choose who to vote for? Until the coup of 2008 and the hostage system is exposed, the nation will be too divided to allow good governance. So how do we get out of this?


54 posted on 01/29/2016 3:27:24 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: concerned about politics
It doesn't make sense.

It's a head scratcher, that's for certain.

65 posted on 01/31/2016 4:18:17 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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