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In His Own Words
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2016 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/29/2016 5:54:20 AM PST by Kaslin

"As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland." "I would press for universal healthcare. ... I would put forward a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes." "We must have universal healthcare."

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have to [take in Syrian refugees]"

"I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." "I hate the concept of guns." "The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions." "I probably identify more as a Democrat."

"Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing to say. I'm going to take care of everybody.... The government is going to pay for it." "I believe the Republicans are just too crazy right."

"I've very impressed by [Nancy Pelosi]. I like her a lot." "Hillary is a great friend of mine. Her husband is a great friend of mine."

"I'm a liberal on healthcare." "As far as single payer, it works incredibly well in Canada." "I am pro-choice in every respect."

Those are Donald Trump's words over the last number of years. Trump's position supporting a socialist healthcare scheme is about the only consistent position he has maintained.

In 2010, Donald Trump funded Democrat efforts to stop Republicans from taking back Congress. In 2014, he switched teams and supported the Republican Establishment against conservatives. Now he has tilted all the way to the right to support the anti-establishment conservatives he so recently hated as "crazy right."

Conservatives, particularly evangelicals, have lost their ability to discern wolves in sheep's clothing. Donald Trump calls himself a Christian, but has never asked God for forgiveness and sees no need to repent. Point that out to many an evangelical Christian and they will be quick to accuse you of judging Donald Trump. And if you point out that 1 Corinthians 5 makes clear that Christians are to judge anyone who calls himself a Christian, Trump defenders will proclaim they are not electing a pastor. Paul wrote, "[do not] associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler". The Bible also implores the faithful to seek out godly men for their leaders.

Pastors in the United States -- including Robert Jeffress of First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas, an evangelical megachurch -- have hitched their wagons to Trump. Jeffress and other evangelical ministers seem convinced that the flawed vessel of Donald Trump can make America great again when they, as pastors, are supposed to be saving souls, not nations. Jeffress and his cohorts are seeking earthly powers to fight spiritual battles.

That men who spend their time wrapped in scripture and preaching in pulpits are quick to embrace a man who is on his third wife gets me thinking. This man is on his third wife -- after having cheated on his first wife with his second -- and says he has never asked God for forgiveness, cannot name a favorite book of the Bible and has no favorite passage of scripture. This suggests to me that many Christian preachers in this country have unsure moorings and let their homesickness for this country as they think they once knew it supersede their homesickness for the land to which they have not yet been, but to which they supposedly long.

As Screwtape wrote to Wormwood, "we want a man hag-ridden by the Future -- haunted by visions of an imminent heaven or hell upon earth -- ready to break the Enemy's commands in the present if by so doing we make him think he can attain the one or avert the other -- dependent for his faith on the success or failure of schemes whose end he will not live to see. We want a whole race perpetually in pursuit of the rainbow's end, never honest, nor kind, nor happy now, but always using as mere fuel wherewith to heap the altar of the future every real gift which is offered them in the Present." Many a pastor and Christian for Trump seems hag-ridden by the Future and ready to pursue a rainbow.


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KEYWORDS: obamacare; trump; trumpquotes
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To: Gaffer

No desire to hang, just misunderstood your request.


181 posted on 01/29/2016 10:09:19 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Gaffer

I’d have to respond by saying to understand my whole bent would be to read the entirety of my comments. I subsequently fully explained my beef with the OP.


182 posted on 01/29/2016 10:11:06 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: MNJohnnie

People want ideas and solutions, not emotion based bile laced tirades.


Coming from a Trump supporter, that is BEYOND rich.

Is somebody super-gluing your eyes in your sleep?


183 posted on 01/29/2016 10:13:57 AM PST by txhurl (I'm with the Nasty Canadian '16)
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To: ManHunter

“So, once again, by stating ‘I will cover EVERYONE’, he didn’t really mean everyone? Interesting twist of logic;”

“So, once again...he really didn’t mean everyone?”

I know I shouldn’t ask this, but how on earth do you get that from what Trump said, or what I posted?

Trump said everyone. Having seen the interview myself, I stated that he was including everyone, which included those who can afford health insurance, and those who can’t. Is there a third group of Americans who are not included in that?


184 posted on 01/29/2016 10:15:36 AM PST by odawg
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To: Shimmer1

“However when it’s for the good of entrepreneurs and business men? No they should not be able to take my possessions, my property!!”

It wasn’t being done for the good of entrepreneurs and business men. It was done by the city for the city of AC.

I don’t know if you’ve been to AC (before and after the casinos), but before it was a slum. Property was worth next to nothing. This house was purchased (before the casinos were built for twenty thousand or so. During the same period houses on the shore, both north and south of AC were selling for 200 to 300 thousand. AC was a slum...

The casinos brought billions of dollars to the city and state and tens of thousands of high paying jobs.

The house in question was an eyesore sitting among billion dollar buildings. The city wanted it gone. Nobody was trying to cheat her... she was offered 50 times what it was worth and that wasn’t enough for her.


185 posted on 01/29/2016 10:32:12 AM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: marktwain

Those have no less substance than the past statements o other conservatives have hung on them.

But even putting the gun control issue aside, Trump’s stances on those other issues should be troublesome enough. The gun control issue is just one of many.


186 posted on 01/29/2016 11:38:25 AM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: ScottinVA

*Those have no less substance than the past statements other conservatives have had hung on them.


187 posted on 01/29/2016 11:40:19 AM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: cuban leaf

I agree. But we have free will. We’re not Pavlov’s dog in an experiment or otherwise. Hey, if Trump were truly what he says I’d be with him. But he’s not Saul on the way to Damascus. He’s Trump on the way to D.C. His adaption of the business plan to conservative values is purely opportunistic. He’s the whore claiming she’s a virgin, and in his case claiming he’s uniquely capable of cleaning up the horrors of his craft.


188 posted on 01/29/2016 12:24:25 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: ScottinVA

Yes, the gun control issue is just one issue.

But it is the issue that I have expert knowledge in. I am not expert in the other issues, so I cannot speak for them with authority.

As to “Other conservative”, we have to look at each case individually, in context.

I was very skeptical of Donald Trump when he first announced.

I was on the edge of hostility.

I investigated. I read.

I now find him an acceptable candidate.

I like Ted Cruz a bit better for his deep Constitutional understanding.

But much has to be said for Donald Trump’s ability to win against the media and, as Ted Cruz says, the Washington Cartel, which are essentially the same thing.

Donald Trump has shown an amazing ability to win against the Washington Cartel, and his policy pronouncements are more conservative than most of the rest of the pack of candidates.

We need to be skeptical of what candidates say. But we can use other criteria to judge, such as who is threatened by the Candidate.

I would love to see a President Ted Cruz, but I will certainly accept a President Donald Trump.


189 posted on 01/29/2016 12:26:05 PM PST by marktwain
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