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To: FreedomStar3028
The FBI murdered the guy in cold blood. He came out with his hands up. If he had intended anything else he would have come out firing

You bet, I tend to agree. In addition, they were firing on the truck before he ever exited the truck. And that would explain why he exited the truck so fast with his hands up.

139 posted on 01/29/2016 1:06:59 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Yep. It also looks like he turns his head right before he puts his hands down, I believe he either heard a shot and then immediately either went for his weapon OR involuntarily went towards the wound. After this first “hands going down” it looks like he tries to put them back up but before he could they shot more.


142 posted on 01/29/2016 1:18:41 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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I’ve examined the video closer and further after the roadblock. My determination is thus.

Truck crashes left of roadblock into 3-4 foot deep snow bank. Lavoy exits with hands raised intending to surrender, takes 5-10 steps away from the roadblock parallel to the road between the truck and treeline. As he gets to what will be the spot where he is murdered an agent or OSP officer comes out of the treeline to the left and fires a taser hitting Lavoy(you can see by the way the agent on the left holds his left arm out fully extended that that is the way tasers are fired, he was clearly not readying a sidearm). Lavoy’s hands drop due to thousands of volts of electricity going through his body and the agent on the right already in firing position with two hands on his sidearm fires killing Lavoy.

The drone or copter starts to circle the truck, some trees obscure the video however not very much. You can now see 3-4 flash bangs go off to the left of the driver side in the snow between truck and treeline. If you watch the passenger side which is closest to the road you can see multiple kick ups of snow from gunfire which are obviously not from inside. As the drone pans further around the windshield becomes visible, some snow is continuing to be kicked up by gunfire and the windshield has clearly been hammered. I can see at least 3, maybe 4 gunshots on the windshield. Possibly one on the roof of the driver side right behind the windshield.

I can see in no frame a weapon being drawn or any weapon whatsoever aimed, drawn, or fired by the occupants of the truck. The FBI and cops planned to ambush and kill whoever came out of that truck. It isn’t until more official vehicles arrive that the assault on the truck ends.


145 posted on 01/29/2016 2:11:04 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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Ping.

The FBI murdered the guy in cold blood. He came out with his hands up. If he had intended anything else he would have come out firing. They advanced and shot before he went for anything.

Nobody is going to do anything. Those agents and whoever issued orders are never going to be punished for this, in 5 years the land will be sold and Russians will be mining uranium from it.

You bet, I tend to agree. In addition, they were firing on the truck before he ever exited the truck. And that would explain why he exited the truck so fast with his hands up.

It's difficult to maintain one's balance in knee deep snow with both hands up above their head. Wonder if any of the agents regret murdering LaVoy Finicum.

377 posted on 01/29/2016 5:50:52 PM PST by LucyT
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