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To: Duchess47

American citizenship is AUTOMATICALLY conferred upon any baby whose mom or dad is AMERICAN. Did Ted go to college as a foreign exchange student? No. I have no respect for people who want to parse nonsense. Is this the worst you can say about Cruz, that his mom may not have filed proper paperwork? It’s shameful.


259 posted on 01/28/2016 8:45:28 AM PST by alstewartfan ("I came back as a large hippopotamus." Al Stewart)
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To: alstewartfan

I can saw worse about Cruz, however, why bother...the Canada thing is enough to sink him.


262 posted on 01/28/2016 8:46:36 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: alstewartfan

“American citizenship is AUTOMATICALLY conferred upon any baby whose mom or dad is AMERICAN. Did Ted go to college as a foreign exchange student? No. I have no respect for people who want to parse nonsense. Is this the worst you can say about Cruz, that his mom may not have filed proper paperwork? It’s shameful.”

From what I understand of the law, your first statement is correct. However, it Cruz would have been an automatically naturalized U.S. Citizen, not a “natural born citizen,” which is what is required to run for the Presidency. The legal definition of “natural born citizen” seems to be the problem - since that doesn’t seem to be settled.

And that’s all that Trump was saying. This needs to be settled, and Cruz needs to be immune to legal attacks from the Democrats if he’s to be the nominee (or running mate).


271 posted on 01/28/2016 8:52:51 AM PST by Pravious
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To: alstewartfan
-- American citizenship is AUTOMATICALLY conferred upon any baby whose mom or dad is AMERICAN. --

No it isn't. See Thomas v. Lynch - 5th Circuit - August 7, 2015 - 14-60297. Thomas was born abroad, at a US Militray base. His father was a US citizen. Thomas is NOT a US Citizen.

286 posted on 01/28/2016 9:01:27 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: alstewartfan

Not to put too fine a point on this, but American citizenship is not “automatic”. For example, had no one applied for US citizenship for Cruz, he would have zero proof that he was even eligible for such. Waving his mothers birth certificate at a border crossing or under the nose of an offical while trying to get a US passport would simply not work.

His mother would have had to do the following. There are links withing the PDF to the other actions also required to attain that not-automatic US citizenship.

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/canada/303578/montreal/crba_eng.pdf

I think it is a very fair question to ask to see Cruzs CRBA. He has released his Canadian birth certificate, his mothers birth certificate and his renunciation document. But he has not released the proof that his US citizenship had been applied for and approved, and a CRBA issued.


321 posted on 01/28/2016 9:33:29 AM PST by Ladysforest
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