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LIVE THREAD Donald Trump VETERANS Rally in Des Moines, Iowa Airing Jan 28 9:00pm EST on C-SPAN
http://www.c-span.org/video/?403832-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-des-moines-iowa ^ | 1/28/2016 | Nikos1121

Posted on 01/28/2016 4:13:23 AM PST by nikos1121

I’m not really sure what will happen tonight. I truly hope that Donald Trump will keep his word and follow through on his decision to not attend the debate and hold a separate forum in Des Moines, but who knows. For now, C-Span says they will cover it.

Sometimes it’s best to walk away from a bad deal and not look back. It’s another opportunity for Trump to “teach us.” I guess we’ll see. Hopefully we won’t get whipsawed all day long and that the Des Moines rally is on and FR people here will participate.

It seems pretty clear to me that Trump was tipped off about an unformatted ambush with other activist questioners, (who may not even be Americans), with their own agendas. Did they intend to pull a Jorge Ramos on him to disrupt—maybe to get him to walk off the stage or say something regrettable?

Whose idea was it in the first place to have these people ask questions? This is the kind of maneuver we’d expect from a more left wing station, not Fox, but we’ve sure learned something this past year, haven’t we about this network, and the people we’ve allowed in our homes day in and day out?

And who wrote that chicken bleep press release that mocked Trump with references to our enemies? Was it Ailes himself? I sense the good people like Jeanine Pirro and Brett Bair are pretty embarrassed this morning. They should all be.

The Fox network intent, as I see it, is more ominous and thinly cloaked and perhaps about other things. Megyn Kelly’s objective was to make her the center of attention over the candidates and her colleagues, but already Rupert Murdoch voices his desire to have Michael Bloomberg enter the race, and we’re hearing of some backdoor dealings of his, and Fox, that favors illegal immigration. I guess we will see what is fact and what is fiction eventually.

Make no mistake, immigration, legal and illegal over the past 25 years, has altered the cultural and political trajectory of our country. Who can say if this is good or bad? It really depends on who you are. I worry that ultimately it will affect our freedoms.

Ted Kennedy and other passive politicians from both sides, and presidents have got the politics wrong about immigration. It used to be that immigrants coming here from wherever, and their offspring proudly said they were “Americans” first. Now, I’m not so sure.

Was that the political intent? To ultimately change the complexion of our nation and endanger our freedoms by pitting us against one another, and to have people coming here not to assimilate with us, but to defy us?

This will all pass, just like it did in 1980 when Ronald Reagan chose not to debate George Bush before the Iowa caucus, and maybe, before it does, it will turn the Iowa caucus on its ear with a surprise winner. I think all of us have seen through the rallies that Iowans are a special brand of people.

Those Iowans, that “usually get out and vote”, are a microcosm of the people we used to be, before John Kennedy was killed. They usually vote in the end for “the person who appears to have the best heart.” I think it’s Trump, they might think it’s Carson. I only hope that they do not take his refusal to debate as a personal affront to them.

All of our candidates are true patriots. Any one of them could lead our country better than the people who have led us these past eight, maybe 24 years. Whomever wins the nomination should have our support.

I pray that God gives each of these people the wisdom to do what is best for the people of our country. Can Fox say that the organization and spirit of their debate had that same intent? I truly doubt it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: cnn; cspan; debate; debates; elections; fox; freepereditorial; immigration; livetrumpvetsevent; rally; trump; trumprallythread; trumprallytonight; trumprebellion; trumpvetsevent; trumpwasright; veterans
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To: grey_whiskers

Great play, but that doesn’t mean what you assume it does. LOL


1,561 posted on 01/28/2016 9:37:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: firebrand

Yes, he does and NOBODY else does or can.


1,562 posted on 01/28/2016 9:39:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: dragnet2

You need to get booted for that post.


1,563 posted on 01/28/2016 9:39:37 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Vote Cruz. In case of emergency, break glass, place fingers on nose, squeeze gently, vote Trump.)
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To: IAMNO1

WHY ?


1,564 posted on 01/28/2016 9:40:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: IAMNO1

You seem angry. Maybe you need a nice nap.


1,565 posted on 01/28/2016 9:46:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nopardons

So my local talk radio is spinning the debate to say there was no name calling, nothing got out of control, the moderators made sure everything was tight - and they only talked about policy.

Do you believe this crap - I guess we knew they’d spin to make it such a wonderful debate since Trump wasn’t there - these people are on a sinking ship and don’t even know it.


1,566 posted on 01/28/2016 9:50:15 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I haven’t watched the debate yet, but am watching the “after primary stuff” and from just this, it does NOT sound as though this debate went well at all!


1,567 posted on 01/28/2016 9:53:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You have strength I do not possess. I won’t watch the debate nor will I watch hi-lights...I’ll wait to read about it here :)

I can’t imagine it went well at all, the duds up there coupled with the muzzy getting to ask questions, or was it make demands? I’m sure it was a real hoot!


1,568 posted on 01/28/2016 10:04:20 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Irish Eyes

As did I - I know he implored our glorious government to get involved with releasing the marine who was in Mexico after a wrong turn (can’t remember the guys name, Tamalison or something like that). Wth is Montel’s beef??


1,569 posted on 01/28/2016 10:06:00 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Rome2000
OK

Hes strutting on one leg.

Take all the time you need John, we need to hear you.

Sure beats the living hell out of Biden's "Stand up, Chuck!" gaffe...

1,570 posted on 01/28/2016 10:13:33 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: nopardons
Great play, but that doesn’t mean what you assume it does. LOL

That's why I used the scare quotes.

Literary license goes both ways...this time, clear into licentiousness... :-P

1,571 posted on 01/28/2016 10:18:26 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dragnet2


1,572 posted on 01/28/2016 10:19:25 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: IAMNO1

Why? Is it photo shopped?


1,573 posted on 01/28/2016 10:27:19 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
I only watched the "after show" and it was just DUMB.

FNC is very obviously pushing Rubio. Nobody who came on seemed "up".

1,574 posted on 01/28/2016 10:52:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: grey_whiskers
LOL....

I doubt that anyone here even know that play, let alone has read or seen it performed. I have done both; read AND saw it performed. :-)

1,575 posted on 01/28/2016 10:54:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Jeb! couldn’t resist saying snarkily that he missed Trump. As Freud might say, There are no jokes.


1,576 posted on 01/28/2016 11:02:53 PM PST by firebrand
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To: nopardons

Just watched the whole thing. I think Rand Paul getting 18% sounds fair. He was his usual consistent, calm, organized self and he sure had his cheering section together as well. I assume his army of young people were burning up their phones voting for him. His closing remarks, in which he referred to himself as the only true fiscal conservative in the race, had the moderators exchanging glances.

Unfortunately, it’s about more than fiscal conservatism this time, important as that is.

The others were lackluster except for Christie, who made the best case I’ve ever heard for electing a governor over a senator.

Megyn went after Cruz with videos, since she didn’t have Donald to insult.

It’s worth watching. I finally found it on YouTube. It didn’t go up right away. I guess Fox wanted to wait until their later repeat was over.


1,577 posted on 01/28/2016 11:12:32 PM PST by firebrand
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To: nopardons

Yes, they are both aristocrats. Glad you pointed that out.


1,578 posted on 01/28/2016 11:17:39 PM PST by firebrand
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To: bigbob

****”Standing O for Huckabee and he deserved it!”****

Do believe he earned it, I was impressed. He normally doesn’t impress me at all. Good Job!


1,579 posted on 01/28/2016 11:23:42 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Ditter

Just saw it and it was NO “joke” !


1,580 posted on 01/28/2016 11:27:21 PM PST by nopardons
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