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LIVE THREAD Donald Trump VETERANS Rally in Des Moines, Iowa Airing Jan 28 9:00pm EST on C-SPAN
http://www.c-span.org/video/?403832-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-des-moines-iowa ^ | 1/28/2016 | Nikos1121

Posted on 01/28/2016 4:13:23 AM PST by nikos1121

I’m not really sure what will happen tonight. I truly hope that Donald Trump will keep his word and follow through on his decision to not attend the debate and hold a separate forum in Des Moines, but who knows. For now, C-Span says they will cover it.

Sometimes it’s best to walk away from a bad deal and not look back. It’s another opportunity for Trump to “teach us.” I guess we’ll see. Hopefully we won’t get whipsawed all day long and that the Des Moines rally is on and FR people here will participate.

It seems pretty clear to me that Trump was tipped off about an unformatted ambush with other activist questioners, (who may not even be Americans), with their own agendas. Did they intend to pull a Jorge Ramos on him to disrupt—maybe to get him to walk off the stage or say something regrettable?

Whose idea was it in the first place to have these people ask questions? This is the kind of maneuver we’d expect from a more left wing station, not Fox, but we’ve sure learned something this past year, haven’t we about this network, and the people we’ve allowed in our homes day in and day out?

And who wrote that chicken bleep press release that mocked Trump with references to our enemies? Was it Ailes himself? I sense the good people like Jeanine Pirro and Brett Bair are pretty embarrassed this morning. They should all be.

The Fox network intent, as I see it, is more ominous and thinly cloaked and perhaps about other things. Megyn Kelly’s objective was to make her the center of attention over the candidates and her colleagues, but already Rupert Murdoch voices his desire to have Michael Bloomberg enter the race, and we’re hearing of some backdoor dealings of his, and Fox, that favors illegal immigration. I guess we will see what is fact and what is fiction eventually.

Make no mistake, immigration, legal and illegal over the past 25 years, has altered the cultural and political trajectory of our country. Who can say if this is good or bad? It really depends on who you are. I worry that ultimately it will affect our freedoms.

Ted Kennedy and other passive politicians from both sides, and presidents have got the politics wrong about immigration. It used to be that immigrants coming here from wherever, and their offspring proudly said they were “Americans” first. Now, I’m not so sure.

Was that the political intent? To ultimately change the complexion of our nation and endanger our freedoms by pitting us against one another, and to have people coming here not to assimilate with us, but to defy us?

This will all pass, just like it did in 1980 when Ronald Reagan chose not to debate George Bush before the Iowa caucus, and maybe, before it does, it will turn the Iowa caucus on its ear with a surprise winner. I think all of us have seen through the rallies that Iowans are a special brand of people.

Those Iowans, that “usually get out and vote”, are a microcosm of the people we used to be, before John Kennedy was killed. They usually vote in the end for “the person who appears to have the best heart.” I think it’s Trump, they might think it’s Carson. I only hope that they do not take his refusal to debate as a personal affront to them.

All of our candidates are true patriots. Any one of them could lead our country better than the people who have led us these past eight, maybe 24 years. Whomever wins the nomination should have our support.

I pray that God gives each of these people the wisdom to do what is best for the people of our country. Can Fox say that the organization and spirit of their debate had that same intent? I truly doubt it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
Our group is just one BIG "love fest". :-)

We are happy, intelligent, very patriotic, and are THE best of the best FREEPERS! :-)

1,481 posted on 01/28/2016 8:13:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Karl Spooner

I had to go back and look. Bad mumbo. I can’t imagine #1.


1,482 posted on 01/28/2016 8:13:39 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
Why would Montel, a marine, resort to such ugly talk?

What the heck is he thinking? This makes me sick.

I was amazed that he made this statement. I always thought he was 100% for the vets.

1,483 posted on 01/28/2016 8:13:47 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Liberty Valance

All callers across party lines ...Go for TRUMP! The man is sincere,this was an amazing unselfish non-political issue. Trump has always said, the money these networks make on debates could give some of this to our vets and wounded warriors. HE did this himself and is was a YUGE Success!


1,484 posted on 01/28/2016 8:14:03 PM PST by djstex (Sarah Palin," I'm in It to Win It" Trump Towers Above the Rest)
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To: struggle

Montel said that? PUKE !


1,485 posted on 01/28/2016 8:14:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: dforest

John Nolte ‏@NolteNC 5m5 minutes ago
,@amandacarpenter on CNN nails it:

Without Trump the Fox debate was a movie we have all seen before.


1,486 posted on 01/28/2016 8:14:23 PM PST by jennychase
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To: navymom1

LOL...for me too! :-)


1,487 posted on 01/28/2016 8:14:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You know, I have noticed that these people who want to be POTUS in their 40’s aren’t wise or seasoned enough for the job.

Not knocking people in their 40’s, but wisdom comes with age. You have to lose something like looks, money...something to see there is something greater than yourself than personal ambition for yourself, to work for.

Just an observation based on my age. In my early 60’s.


1,488 posted on 01/28/2016 8:16:10 PM PST by dforest
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If you read Montel on twitter he’s gone off the rails about Trump for a while.


1,489 posted on 01/28/2016 8:17:25 PM PST by Jenny217
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To: Grampa Dave

Hey Grandpa.

Speaking of the fat Muslim student and the two others.

Did they show up at the debate?

Anybody know.?


1,490 posted on 01/28/2016 8:17:29 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittancez)
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To: Karl Spooner

1,491 posted on 01/28/2016 8:17:40 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is the wrecking ball destroying GOPe, FAUX & their bs mediot conspirators & beltway pundits!)
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To: Churchillspirit

That time was long ago and looooooooong over !


1,492 posted on 01/28/2016 8:18:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: All

1,493 posted on 01/28/2016 8:18:33 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: jennychase

I am not surprised. Trump hass proved the media isn’t all we believed them to be. Their job is to hurt you and make you look rally bad or really good based on their own opinions.

I hope all of those guys learned a lesson in leadership tonight.


1,494 posted on 01/28/2016 8:18:37 PM PST by dforest
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To: bray

I think he was too busy cracking “jokes”...


1,495 posted on 01/28/2016 8:19:18 PM PST by Heart-Rest ( "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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To: All

just voted on Drudge poll on who won the debate!
TRUMP!
WOOHOO!


1,496 posted on 01/28/2016 8:21:55 PM PST by djstex (Sarah Palin," I'm in It to Win It" Trump Towers Above the Rest)
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To: Irish Eyes

He, like many, is black first and everything else second. That’s all. No further information is needed.


1,497 posted on 01/28/2016 8:21:58 PM PST by The Toll
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

Teddykins : Gosh, if you guys ask one more MEAN question, I may have to leave the stage.”

He really said that?
*evil grin*


Oh no he did not just really say that after spending the past 3 days dissing Trump for pulling out?!?!?!


1,498 posted on 01/28/2016 8:22:11 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Heart-Rest

Glenn Thrush @GlennThrush
Jeb Bush is like a Shakespeare protagonist wandering through a Charlie Sheen sitcom


1,499 posted on 01/28/2016 8:22:37 PM PST by jennychase
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To: GnuThere

She was disgusting and seemed to be making a veiled threat that America had better tolerate Muslims. Or else what, Muslim Rosie?!


So nice of Faux News to give her a national platform!!! :(


1,500 posted on 01/28/2016 8:23:00 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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