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LIVE THREAD Donald Trump VETERANS Rally in Des Moines, Iowa Airing Jan 28 9:00pm EST on C-SPAN
http://www.c-span.org/video/?403832-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-des-moines-iowa ^ | 1/28/2016 | Nikos1121

Posted on 01/28/2016 4:13:23 AM PST by nikos1121

I’m not really sure what will happen tonight. I truly hope that Donald Trump will keep his word and follow through on his decision to not attend the debate and hold a separate forum in Des Moines, but who knows. For now, C-Span says they will cover it.

Sometimes it’s best to walk away from a bad deal and not look back. It’s another opportunity for Trump to “teach us.” I guess we’ll see. Hopefully we won’t get whipsawed all day long and that the Des Moines rally is on and FR people here will participate.

It seems pretty clear to me that Trump was tipped off about an unformatted ambush with other activist questioners, (who may not even be Americans), with their own agendas. Did they intend to pull a Jorge Ramos on him to disrupt—maybe to get him to walk off the stage or say something regrettable?

Whose idea was it in the first place to have these people ask questions? This is the kind of maneuver we’d expect from a more left wing station, not Fox, but we’ve sure learned something this past year, haven’t we about this network, and the people we’ve allowed in our homes day in and day out?

And who wrote that chicken bleep press release that mocked Trump with references to our enemies? Was it Ailes himself? I sense the good people like Jeanine Pirro and Brett Bair are pretty embarrassed this morning. They should all be.

The Fox network intent, as I see it, is more ominous and thinly cloaked and perhaps about other things. Megyn Kelly’s objective was to make her the center of attention over the candidates and her colleagues, but already Rupert Murdoch voices his desire to have Michael Bloomberg enter the race, and we’re hearing of some backdoor dealings of his, and Fox, that favors illegal immigration. I guess we will see what is fact and what is fiction eventually.

Make no mistake, immigration, legal and illegal over the past 25 years, has altered the cultural and political trajectory of our country. Who can say if this is good or bad? It really depends on who you are. I worry that ultimately it will affect our freedoms.

Ted Kennedy and other passive politicians from both sides, and presidents have got the politics wrong about immigration. It used to be that immigrants coming here from wherever, and their offspring proudly said they were “Americans” first. Now, I’m not so sure.

Was that the political intent? To ultimately change the complexion of our nation and endanger our freedoms by pitting us against one another, and to have people coming here not to assimilate with us, but to defy us?

This will all pass, just like it did in 1980 when Ronald Reagan chose not to debate George Bush before the Iowa caucus, and maybe, before it does, it will turn the Iowa caucus on its ear with a surprise winner. I think all of us have seen through the rallies that Iowans are a special brand of people.

Those Iowans, that “usually get out and vote”, are a microcosm of the people we used to be, before John Kennedy was killed. They usually vote in the end for “the person who appears to have the best heart.” I think it’s Trump, they might think it’s Carson. I only hope that they do not take his refusal to debate as a personal affront to them.

All of our candidates are true patriots. Any one of them could lead our country better than the people who have led us these past eight, maybe 24 years. Whomever wins the nomination should have our support.

I pray that God gives each of these people the wisdom to do what is best for the people of our country. Can Fox say that the organization and spirit of their debate had that same intent? I truly doubt it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: cnn; cspan; debate; debates; elections; fox; freepereditorial; immigration; livetrumpvetsevent; rally; trump; trumprallythread; trumprallytonight; trumprebellion; trumpvetsevent; trumpwasright; veterans
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To: Eric Blair 2084

No! The purpose was for the vets and he honored that and had wonderful people there to speak.

Fun and games times is over, we seriously need to fight for this country and what makes us so great.


1,221 posted on 01/28/2016 7:15:39 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Marie

Bless you and your family for the work you do. I lost my dad almost a year ago and he was a decorated WWII vet who gave countless hours to veterans organizations, so I know a little of what you aare saying. We owe our veterans everything we have. Everything. Thank you.


1,222 posted on 01/28/2016 7:15:42 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: CedarDave

Soemone said it was Adele singing “You could have had it all”


1,223 posted on 01/28/2016 7:15:47 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: datricker

“Can you see any other candidate doing this? This is leadership this is Americanism!”

It was more than I could have hoped for. Great to rave about it here, in real time tonight, too :-)


1,224 posted on 01/28/2016 7:15:56 PM PST by Pravious
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To: proud2beconservativeinNJ

It was an honor to be given the opportunity.


1,225 posted on 01/28/2016 7:15:57 PM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: stratboy

I’ve been so wrapped-up in watching Trump, through OAN, I’m wondering what happened on the so-called ‘real’ debate. Did anybody actually watch that tonight?

-JT


1,226 posted on 01/28/2016 7:16:03 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: Girlene

Yeah there will be many more of those debates. This was a unique event in American politcal primary history


1,227 posted on 01/28/2016 7:16:33 PM PST by datricker (Like America vote Trump)
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To: bigbob
everything you think you know about political campaigns is out the window this year.

Yep. Trump just upstaged a Presidential debate. Badly. Think about that for a minute...

1,228 posted on 01/28/2016 7:16:35 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: datricker
No I can't ! And that's the damn thing ! Where the hell is everyone else ?

Rick and Huck jumped up leagues in my view, just saying.

But yeya; no one else could have done this

1,229 posted on 01/28/2016 7:16:49 PM PST by onona (Check your shark at the door)
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To: bray

I’d run through a wall for this guy right now. Great job Donald.


1,230 posted on 01/28/2016 7:16:56 PM PST by deweyfrank
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To: TigerClaws

Cruz threatened to walk off the stage?? Getting killed for it on twitter. Ruh oh.


1,231 posted on 01/28/2016 7:17:13 PM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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To: nikos1121

This is so funny. At http://drudgereport.com/nowia.htm there is a poll for who won the debate tonight, and Trump is winning!


1,232 posted on 01/28/2016 7:17:18 PM PST by Right-wing Librarian
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To: Yaelle

Yes - that’s the one !!! I love that guy !


1,233 posted on 01/28/2016 7:17:27 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: Jane Long
EXACTLY !

Could ANY other candidate, in ANY Party, pull something like this off in 24 hours?

FNC are all JERKS, with perhaps 3 exceptions.

And the damned Dwarves are ALL useless pigs at the government trough.

1,234 posted on 01/28/2016 7:17:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: CedarDave
Adele - Rolling in the Deep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYEDA3JcQqw

1,235 posted on 01/28/2016 7:17:40 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: Billthedrill

Cspan is doing the call in and the moderator opened by reporting that Cruz opened by mocking Trump and imitating how he speaks.

Stay classy, Rafael.


1,236 posted on 01/28/2016 7:17:53 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Girlene

From what little I saw of the debate, it was same old, same old. The Trump event was much better. I really don’t think that Donald skipping the debate will have any negative effect.


1,237 posted on 01/28/2016 7:17:54 PM PST by CASchack
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To: VerySadAmerican

It’s an honor to be on this thread with you. Thank you for your service.


1,238 posted on 01/28/2016 7:18:04 PM PST by djstex (Sarah Palin," I'm in It to Win It" Trump Towers Above the Rest)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Cruz? Whose he? Somebody’s going on a cruise? Huh?


1,239 posted on 01/28/2016 7:18:09 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Chokes me up to.


1,240 posted on 01/28/2016 7:18:09 PM PST by nopardons
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