Posted on 01/27/2016 8:06:06 PM PST by dynoman
Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, the spokesman of the refuge occupation, was shot and killed after he charged police during a roadside stop north of Burns on Tuesday, according to a man on Facebook who claims to be the driver of one of two vehicles involved in the highway shooting.
McConnell said he noticed movement, and Finicum "took off" in the pickup with the remaining passengers. He said Payne and Cox described encountering a police roadblock about a mile north on the highway and apparently tried to get around it, becoming stuck in the snow.
"When he exited the vehicle, the rear wheels were still spinning," McConnell said. "He charged at law enforcement" and was shot.
(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...
Of course not. The fact is we don’t know yet exactly what happened and one witness is not enough.
That’s pure speculation.
Watch the video, he said they said they had nothing to charge him with. Probably because he cooperated. He didn’t drive off evading the stop like LaVoy did.
âIt is a popular idea that a man is a hero just because he was killed in action. Rather, I think, a man is frequently a fool when he gets killed.â - Patton
âNo dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.â - Patton
I get the feeling that LaVoy was the only one of the protesters with an exit strategy. He took it.
Yes, very sad, tragic.
“It is a popular idea that a man is a hero just because he was killed in action. Rather, I think, a man is frequently a fool when he gets killed.” - Patton
“No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.” - Patton
There is a rumor(as you would expect) going around that McConnell is an FBI informant. So we are left with his story and the very different story of an 18yo woman. I will wait to pass judgment until all the witnesses are given the opportunity to tell their version and the Clackamas County Sheriff issues their report. Anything else is just a waste of time.
You are right it’s all speculation at this point. Some people are at the conclusion stage already. That’s a problem.
I wonder about anyone who has their head up looking around during a hailstorm of 120 bullets coming your way. That doesn’t make much sense to me. Most people would duck and find cover.
if there were 120 rounds discharged it is truly amazing that there is only one dead/wounded. LEO’s are notoriously bad shots - even the FBI.
“His second hand account is not the account I heard from the Shawna audio.”
Is Shawna the 18 year old?
Apparently you didn’t listen to Victoria Sharp’s eye witness testimony of what happened. Do you think that if you repost Mark McConnell’s facebook video often enough as in every other post you make it will make his story more believeable?
Innocent until proven guilty goes for law enforcement too.
I know what Victoria has said. Others disagree with her. It doesn’t make much sense to have your head up looking around with a hailstorm of bullets coming your way.
Way to early for conclusions.
Amon Bundy also called his wife from the back seat of a cop car. He witnessed Lavoy being shot with his hands up. This is how the word got out of what happened. Victoria Sharp is the second witness to come forward and corroborate what happened. She also was the closest person to Lavoy Finicum when he was killed that has spoken.
Most people on Free Republic are looking for the whole story, and have concerns about the tyrannical government just as these Patriots did. The only ones doing the shooting were government agents. They clearly outnumbered the Patriots and extreme use of force was NOT warranted.
According to this article, http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/us/oregon-siege-traffic-stop/index.html
“The shooting was captured on camera by the SWAT team. FBI and Oregon police officials are discussing possibly releasing the video, in part to counter claims by supporters that Finicum was gunned down while trying to surrender.”
Where is the video?
Well that video would clear it up.
I still find it hard to believe anyone would have their head up looking around when a hail of bullets are incoming.
Does anyone know if LaVoy was armed? He seemed to always be armed. He was when he vandalized the utility security cameras. Add to that his public statement that he would rather die than be arrested - then fleeing from an officer - it was not a good combination of choices.
Read all the comments on the video - nothing there that would lead you to believe McConnell is an FBI informant.
https://www.facebook.com/mark.mcconnell.127648/videos/10154667085229762/?pnref=story
If that girls testimony turns out to be true.
I think the punks who fired on them will have a hard time defending their actions.
Lawyers/lawsuits are gonna fly.
If he truly had his hands up and was at a distance from police= bad shoot
This reminds me of “Enemies Foreign and Domestic”.
Chilling.
Well, you mentioned her age as if it had some impact in the accuracy of her information. I agree that one witness probably isn’t sufficient, though.
Read all the comments below the facebook video linked in post 115.
Pot?
Kinnikinnick from the Native Americans’ stored supply.
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