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Robert "LaVoy" Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says
The Oregonian/OregonLive ^ | January 27, 2016 at 9:45 AM, updated January 27, 2016 at 3:43 PM | By Les Zaitz

Posted on 01/27/2016 8:06:06 PM PST by dynoman

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To: Politicalkiddo

Of course not. The fact is we don’t know yet exactly what happened and one witness is not enough.


101 posted on 01/28/2016 5:30:33 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That’s pure speculation.


102 posted on 01/28/2016 5:31:53 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Watch the video, he said they said they had nothing to charge him with. Probably because he cooperated. He didn’t drive off evading the stop like LaVoy did.


103 posted on 01/28/2016 5:34:48 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Another Post-American

“It is a popular idea that a man is a hero just because he was killed in action. Rather, I think, a man is frequently a fool when he gets killed.” - Patton

“No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.” - Patton


104 posted on 01/28/2016 5:35:45 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

I get the feeling that LaVoy was the only one of the protesters with an exit strategy. He took it.


105 posted on 01/28/2016 5:42:05 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freepers. The enemy is on the left, not the right!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Yes, very sad, tragic.

“It is a popular idea that a man is a hero just because he was killed in action. Rather, I think, a man is frequently a fool when he gets killed.” - Patton

“No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.” - Patton


106 posted on 01/28/2016 5:49:12 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

There is a rumor(as you would expect) going around that McConnell is an FBI informant. So we are left with his story and the very different story of an 18yo woman. I will wait to pass judgment until all the witnesses are given the opportunity to tell their version and the Clackamas County Sheriff issues their report. Anything else is just a waste of time.


107 posted on 01/28/2016 5:57:29 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (The Huckster for Prez!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You are right it’s all speculation at this point. Some people are at the conclusion stage already. That’s a problem.

I wonder about anyone who has their head up looking around during a hailstorm of 120 bullets coming your way. That doesn’t make much sense to me. Most people would duck and find cover.


108 posted on 01/28/2016 6:03:05 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

if there were 120 rounds discharged it is truly amazing that there is only one dead/wounded. LEO’s are notoriously bad shots - even the FBI.


109 posted on 01/28/2016 6:06:14 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (The Huckster for Prez!)
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To: sonofagun

“His second hand account is not the account I heard from the Shawna audio.”

Is Shawna the 18 year old?


110 posted on 01/28/2016 6:24:40 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Apparently you didn’t listen to Victoria Sharp’s eye witness testimony of what happened. Do you think that if you repost Mark McConnell’s facebook video often enough as in every other post you make it will make his story more believeable?


111 posted on 01/28/2016 6:40:56 AM PST by fulltlt
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To: fulltlt

Innocent until proven guilty goes for law enforcement too.

I know what Victoria has said. Others disagree with her. It doesn’t make much sense to have your head up looking around with a hailstorm of bullets coming your way.

Way to early for conclusions.


112 posted on 01/28/2016 6:47:19 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Amon Bundy also called his wife from the back seat of a cop car. He witnessed Lavoy being shot with his hands up. This is how the word got out of what happened. Victoria Sharp is the second witness to come forward and corroborate what happened. She also was the closest person to Lavoy Finicum when he was killed that has spoken.

Most people on Free Republic are looking for the whole story, and have concerns about the tyrannical government just as these Patriots did. The only ones doing the shooting were government agents. They clearly outnumbered the Patriots and extreme use of force was NOT warranted.

According to this article, http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/us/oregon-siege-traffic-stop/index.html
“The shooting was captured on camera by the SWAT team. FBI and Oregon police officials are discussing possibly releasing the video, in part to counter claims by supporters that Finicum was gunned down while trying to surrender.”

Where is the video?


113 posted on 01/28/2016 7:34:08 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: azkathy

Well that video would clear it up.

I still find it hard to believe anyone would have their head up looking around when a hail of bullets are incoming.

Does anyone know if LaVoy was armed? He seemed to always be armed. He was when he vandalized the utility security cameras. Add to that his public statement that he would rather die than be arrested - then fleeing from an officer - it was not a good combination of choices.


114 posted on 01/28/2016 7:41:26 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Read all the comments on the video - nothing there that would lead you to believe McConnell is an FBI informant.

https://www.facebook.com/mark.mcconnell.127648/videos/10154667085229762/?pnref=story


115 posted on 01/28/2016 7:52:34 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Travis McGee

If that girls testimony turns out to be true.
I think the punks who fired on them will have a hard time defending their actions.
Lawyers/lawsuits are gonna fly.

If he truly had his hands up and was at a distance from police= bad shoot


116 posted on 01/28/2016 7:58:39 AM PST by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: Travis McGee

This reminds me of “Enemies Foreign and Domestic”.

Chilling.


117 posted on 01/28/2016 8:00:16 AM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireallysupportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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To: dynoman

Well, you mentioned her age as if it had some impact in the accuracy of her information. I agree that one witness probably isn’t sufficient, though.


118 posted on 01/28/2016 8:59:09 AM PST by Politicalkiddo ("May God save the country, for it is obvious the people will not."- Millard Fillmore)
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To: Politicalkiddo

Read all the comments below the facebook video linked in post 115.


119 posted on 01/28/2016 9:01:55 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Pot?

Kinnikinnick from the Native Americans’ stored supply.


120 posted on 01/28/2016 9:18:40 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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