Oregon Occupier Killed In Standoff Climax Preferred Death To Prison (Claims of Hand up & Unarmed)

TPM ^ | 27 Jan 16 | Rick Bowmer

[xzins]

Four days after taking the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon, LaVoy Finicum, a 55-year-old Arizona rancher told NBC News that he'd rather die than spend his days in prison.

"There are things more important than your life and freedom is one of them," he said in early January as he sat huddled in a blue tarp outside of the wildlife refuge keeping watch with his gun in his lap. "I'm prepared to defend freedom."

Finicum told NBC that night that he was staying outside to ensure that the FBI could find him if they came to arrest him.

Finicum was shot and killed Tuesday night when law enforcement stopped two cars carrying standoff leaders on their way from the refuge to a meeting in Grant County. Ryan Bundy, another militiaman, was shot and transported to the hospital, but did not suffer any life-threatening injuries, according to The Oregonian.

Before Finicum's death was even confirmed, supporters rushed to portray him on social media as a martyr who, according to unverified accounts, had his hands up and was unarmed when he was shot. Law enforcement sources told CNN that Finicum and Ryan Bundy were the only two leaders who did not surrender during the confrontation.

Finicum had taken a strong interest in land disputes with the federal government after he stood at Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's side during his confrontation with the Bureau of Land Management in 2014. After returning home to Arizona, Finicum – a Mormon father with 11 children– made a decision. He was no longer going to write a check to the federal government for his grazing fees.

At the refuge, Finicum became a spokesman for the militiamen, fielding questions from press and helping plan events like one Saturday where ranchers were invited to come to the commandeered refuge to sign "declarations of emancipation" from the federal government, documents asserting they would no longer pay grazing fees. According to the Oregonian, Finicum had incurred about $12,000 in fees with the BLM.

In a video posting just hours before his death, Finicum described why the militiamen were still holding onto the refuge after more than three weeks and after local officials and community members had asked them to go. Finicum said that the occupation was intended to push back on the federal government's overreach.

"They do not want to let go of this," Finicum said. "They do not intend on loosing here and we do not intend on giving it back to them."

But Finicum's participation in the standoff had taken a toll. Back home in Arizona, child services had removed four foster children from his family's care, a move Finicum characterized as retribution. Oregon Public Broadcasting had reported that Finicum made most of his income from fostering.

Before Oregon, Finicum kept a website One Cowboy's Stand For Freedom where he documented his beliefs, his family and his ranch.

Finicum writes on the website that "he has drawn a line in the sand and that line is the Constitution in its original intent."

He also had written a cowboy thriller about the chaos of the American West after an electromagnetic pulse collapses the country's infrastructure called "Only By Blood and Suffering." The novel traced a family as each grown child navigated the new world and fights back against the overreach of the federal government.

[JewishRighter]

I think you make a good point. There is an important consideration for how their actions would be perceived by the broader public. In order to win the war to push the government within its constitutional boundaries, a lot more people have to be won over to the recognition about how out of control it has become.

Perhaps we can be more forgiving for their error in judgment. These particular men and women are very idealistic and take their history to heart: the example of the Revolutionary generation inspires them to think that it will take a relatively small percentage of Americans willing to take bold action to bring about change.

[LucyT]

Check out # 297.

Quote:

>>>>If what she was saying is true, the leadership was lured to an FBI ambush and the killing was just plain old FBI murder of a target suspect.<<<<

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[LucyT]

Clinton Foundation took massive payoffs, promised Hammond Ranch and other publicly owned lands to Russians along with one-fifth of our uranium ore

Hillary shreds Constitution, exposed as ultimate backer of massive U.S. land grab

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3378862/posts?page=77#77

Older article here:

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-gained-us-uranium-assets/

[Smokin' Joe]

Direct link to Victoria Sharp's statement (was sitting next to Ryan Bundy in the back seat)

Given this account, the vehicle itself will tell the story of what transpired.

If, as this account states, no shots were fired nor firearms brandished by the occupants of the vehicle, this was an ambush.

Murder.

[FlyingEagle]

Thanks for the link Smokin’, and yes, that is the way I see it. Highly alarming if true, and this brave woman needs to be safely hidden away from the nice gummit men.

If the remainder at Malheur figure out what really happened, it is more likely to escalate, than wind down, imho. These citizens are not wilting violets.

Waco. Waco 2. Ruby Ridge. Burns OR US Hwy 385. Killing fields.

[Smokin' Joe]

Medina, ND, Philadelphia, PA (M.O.V.E.) are others which could be added to the list. There will be more.

The unfortunate part is that those attempting to intimidate using such tactics ignore American History at the risk of cementing the resolve to resist by any means necessary.

[Aleya2Fairlie]

“If it is proved that the FBI shot first unprovoked will Oath’s be kept?”

That’s my question as well.

[Aleya2Fairlie]

“If they would open that up to people as they are supposed to, can you imagine in the olden days offering 40 acres and a plow to those who would settle it.

I’d take that over food stamps any day of the week and twice on Sundays.”

All those “immigrants” that Obama is importing will be right at home and they’ll get the food stamps and freebies as well. I won’t call what has been created “the Federal Government” because that would seem to imply it’s American. Obama’s regime has a use for this land that is as yet undisclosed. The ranchers were pushed into rebellion by the Regime firing the grassland months before it was agreed, causing loss of property and cattle. It was deliberate as was this whole scenario.

Watch what actually and eventually happens to this land. We now live in such a cesspool that it’s really difficult for the average citizen to realize that America as we know it is largely gone anyway. The powers that be are deadly experts and geniuses at this game. Average Americans, like these ranchers, are just pawns; easily managed and entirely expendable.

However, the underbelly has run into some unforeseen obstacles lately. In the words of another much respected poster on FR, “Pray America is Waking” and that we do so in time to save ourselves.

[2harddrive]

With ALL the time the Feds had setting up the ambush site, and with ALL the hullabaloo lately from blacks about body cams for cops, and ALL the advance warning and planning time in Oregon, the Feds should have NO trouble turning over video of the so-called “shoot-out” that supports their narrative. If they DO NOT (or CANNOT) produce the video, that constitutes PRIMA FACIE evidence of Federal culpability in murder. Q.E.D.

[xzins]

We’ll not see the eyewitness accounts in the mainstream media. Joseph Goebbels and the Gestapo would be proud of how they’ve controlled the media and created a confrontation when there wasn’t one. Masters of deception.

In any case, the truth will get out on the alternative media or it won’t get out.

[Bringbackthedraft]

This incident will wind down, but if Hillary appears to be brought up on charges, the media can jump back to this and discuss it for weeks on end. That is unless one of the Kardashians doesn’t do something that would make front page.