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Donald Trump attacks evangelical leader in Iowa who endorsed Ted Cruz
The Washington Post ^ | January 26, 2016 | Jenna Johnson

Posted on 01/26/2016 11:39:16 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

As an influential evangelical Iowan, Bob Vander Plaats experienced what it was like to be friends with Donald Trump. The New York billionaire invited Vander Plaats and his family to visit New York several times, refusing to allow them to pay to stay at one of his hotels and lavishing kindness.

Then Vander Plaats - president of the Family Leader, which is opposed to abortion and gay marriage - decided to endorse Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) for president instead of Trump. On Tuesday, Trump skewered Vander Plaats on Twitter, calling him "phony" and "a bad guy." The attacks came as Trump announced that Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. had endorsed him...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: carson; catholic; cruz; donaldtrump; palin; prayer; teaparty; tedcruz; trump
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To: 21twelve
It’s in Ted’s emails and stuff that they have people coming from all over to do the ground work in Iowa. Not to stack the vote, but to organize, get out the word, etc.

Yes, big difference between bringing in people from out of state to do ground work and bringing in people from out of state to vote.

The poster claimed that Trump was busing in voters.

101 posted on 01/26/2016 12:54:25 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: af_vet_1981

Versus a faux conservative like Trump. Yeah I guess that makes sense.


102 posted on 01/26/2016 12:55:18 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: CA Conservative
Almost the same, although I don't know the exact circumstances.

I've got no problem with with preachers urging the congregation to vote. I've got no problem with a preacher letting it be known who he is voting for.

A preacher who instructs his flock to vote for a specific candidate because he said so... or because that's what God would want... I'd leave the church or he would.

These snake-oil charlatan preachers don't seem to last very long where I'm from.

103 posted on 01/26/2016 12:57:09 PM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: catfish1957
Versus a faux conservative like Trump. Yeah I guess that makes sense.

Makes a lot of sense; Trump is not asking for money like all the professional conservatives who were not even elected. Trump is removing the need to pay them off.

104 posted on 01/26/2016 12:58:46 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: TontoKowalski
preacher who instructs his flock to vote for a specific candidate because he said so... or because that's what God would want... I'd leave the church or he would.

As would I, and I don't know many preachers that would do such a thing.

105 posted on 01/26/2016 1:00:26 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: AuntB

Funny, there is nothing in that article to support the claim being made - all third part supposition and conjecture. I guess I shouldn’t expect more from a blog called “ScorchedEarthNews”.


106 posted on 01/26/2016 1:02:41 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CrosscutSaw
Re>Trump everyone is always begging him to do things

What do you call it when people ask you for money?

107 posted on 01/26/2016 1:07:21 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: FreeReign
No it will be bus loads of out of state voters bused in to Iowa that will give Trump the win. BTW, those are the words of a bragging Trump supporter, and not mine.

I'm scheduled to help run a caucus site next Monday night.

The process has us looking up every would-be caucus participant in the county voter database. If they don't show up or, they're not registered Republican, they must register and/or declare as a Republican. I could be mistaken but, I expect proof of residency will be required (as on a normal election day).

Personally, I would be more concerned about the Republican Party of Iowa in Des Moines cooking the books. (It wouldn't be the first time.) But, supposedly, that's been made impossible by utilizing an app to transmit the results from every caucus site and requiring all of the raw data to be retained for later scrutiny.

108 posted on 01/26/2016 1:08:32 PM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: AuntB
Re>Cruz is TELLING preachers in Iowa to break the law and demand their flock support him

Cruz is owned and controlled by religious FANATCTICS.

This is scary stuff.

109 posted on 01/26/2016 1:11:32 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: IC Ken
What do you call it when people ask you for money?

I still remember Heidi Cruz being worried sick ... so tired of that kind of conservative pseudo religious fund raising.

110 posted on 01/26/2016 1:13:17 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: SampleMan
Re>Can you find me that separation clause in the Constitution

Then these churches can pay taxes. Problem solved.

111 posted on 01/26/2016 1:17:06 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: TontoKowalski

I suspect some do, but most probably just look to their pastor’s opinion as someone respected, and may listen to them, may not. I am sure a Pastor speaking out for a candidate (or against another based on evidence) can’t hurt the former...


112 posted on 01/26/2016 1:23:09 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Anima Mundi

I fully expect the next thing out of his mouth to those who disagree is to “ sit down and shut up”. Lots of his fans here have that attitude.


113 posted on 01/26/2016 1:37:16 PM PST by buckeye49
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To: newgeezer
First: Thank you for your service in this matter! I feel more secure in the process with a Freeper at the scene.

Question: Is the ballot a secret ballot? I thought I heard that it was, but then I saw old news footage of someone (in a Hillary shirt) counting raised hands for Hillary.

114 posted on 01/26/2016 1:50:45 PM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: AuntB

Cruz is TELLING preachers in Iowa to break the law and demand their flock support him. This is how little Cruz thinks of Christianity and freedom!
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Jeez, the site you linked to is nothing but a constant stream of pro-Trump articles. I wonder if this guy is on the Trump payroll.


115 posted on 01/26/2016 2:07:25 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruzin' [BUT NO LONGER Trumping'] or losin'!)
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To: FreeReign

I believe it’s been referenced several times in posts related to Cruz’s ‘’ground game’’ in Iowa. Not sure if it had it’s own separate post (or posts, because they usually come in multiples) or not.

(Yesterday was a weird day. Check this out (though you. too. may see nothing wrong with it)

January 25, 2016 6:19:12 PM CST · 37 of 61
conservativejoy to KGeorge
Few countries have birthright citizenship. Cruz’s mother had always told him she had never sought citizenship for him.

Technically, the first time he voted in the U.S., that nullified his citizenship in Canada. His renouncing it was a formality.

WTH?

It was in this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3388424/posts


116 posted on 01/26/2016 2:11:49 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: Mudtiger

But, I have to say, the personal insults seem small-minded, as if he cannot tolerate disagreement or criticism. My enthusiasm has tempered.
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I’m like you...I originally liked Trump and he was a close 2nd to Cruz in my preference. I had visions of a Cruz/Trump or, more likely, a Trump/Cruz ticket. My liking of Trump has been blown away by his vitriol and NEEDLESS scorched Earth tactics-—and NOTHING remains of those good feelings I had.


117 posted on 01/26/2016 2:12:46 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruzin' [BUT NO LONGER Trumping'] or losin'!)
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To: IC Ken

What problem? I don’t see the first amendment as a problem.

Is the desire to use taxation as a weapon a Trump thing, or just your idea?


118 posted on 01/26/2016 2:15:38 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: JSDude1

No, I don’t think so. Campaigning is one thing. Voting in a caucus is another. I have seen several people say they were going to Iowa for the caucuses.

You’re right. This is the kind of thing democrats do. IIRC, Ron Paul’s supporters pulled a similar stunt in several locations

I’m sure if something like that happens, it will be talked about, no matter who does it.


119 posted on 01/26/2016 2:16:51 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: TontoKowalski
Question: Is the ballot a secret ballot? I thought I heard that it was, but then I saw old news footage of someone (in a Hillary shirt) counting raised hands for Hillary.

That's how Democrats do it. "Eligible caucus goers divide to form Presidential preference groups. If a preference group for a candidate does not have enough people to be considered "viable," a threshold set at the beginning of the night, eligible attendees will have an opportunity to join another preference group or acquire people into their group to become viable. Delegates are then awarded to the preference groups based on their size." - http://iowademocrats.org/about-iowa-caucuses/

The Iowa Republican precinct caucus has a secret ballot. We vote once.

120 posted on 01/26/2016 2:16:51 PM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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