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Why This Former Trump Fan Doesn't Support Him Anymore
Townhall.com ^ | January 26, 2016 | John Hawkins

Posted on 01/26/2016 5:36:15 AM PST by Kaslin

I understand why people like Donald Trump because I was a big fan of his as well.

I loved the fact that he's a charismatic, politically incorrect fighter and a successful businessman. I am also genuinely grateful to him for changing the debate on immigration and starting a conversation about Muslim immigration that we should have had a long time ago. I don't believe a ban on Muslim immigrants would ever pass Congress nor do I think it's practical (How would you realistically implement it?), but I do think blocking future refugees and immigrants from countries where Al-Qaeda and ISIS hold sway is more doable because of Trump. That's a little ironic because he was initially in favor of bringing in Syrian refugees, but it's true. Additionally, after years of being ignored, scorned and poorly represented by Republican leaders in Congress, it's nice to have a politician who actually goes overboard to pander to conservatives.

Additionally, I find it OFFENSIVE when Trump is called a fascist or people attack his supporters. At the end of the day, to beat Trump you have to convince his supporters to go elsewhere. You don't do that by insulting people for their choice of candidates.

That being said, the support for Trump reminds me of an old Jeff Foxworthy joke that went something like this.

Kid: Look up in the sky, mama, it's a plane! It's a plane!

Mother: Oh, look, he knows that! He's just so smart, isn't he?

Jeff Foxworthy: Smart? He's 12 years old!

When you have genuine affection for someone, it's easy to block out his faults. In Trump's case, this is being taken to such an extreme that it's starting to feel like we're in Jonestown a few days before the Kool-Aid is handed out. Tell me I'm wrong if you like, but even Trump made reference to that when he said,

"And you know what else they say about my people? The polls! They say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters. It's incredible."

Since when do conservative engage in this type of blind loyalty towards ANY politician?

Similarly, Donald Trump talks incessantly about polls that are favorable to him, but the polls have also consistently shown that he loses to Hillary Clinton. Worse yet, his favorable/unfavorable ratings are 33/58. That's the same as Jimmy Carter in early 1980. It's WORSE than Walter Mondale. Trump even has a higher unfavorable rating with the general public than Nixon AFTER Watergate. It would be easier to rehabilitate Enron's image than to make Trump President with those poll numbers.

Saying that a candidate with those poll numbers couldn't win an election without a miracle is something that anyone who knows something about elections would normally agree on.  Yet, with Trump, many people seem unfazed. Basically, they think he's going to use some kind of "Trump magic" that will guarantee a victory.

The problem with that is that successful though Donald Trump may be, he fails all the time. He's had four bankruptcies. Then there's Trump steaks, Trump Vodka, Trump the Game, Trump Magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Airlines, Trump University, Trump Casinos, the New Jersey Generals and happily, he also lost a lawsuit and was unable to take a widow's home via eminent domain so he could build a limo parking lot. Trump has been a successful businessman, but an awful lot of investors who put money into his ill-advised projects because they just assumed he'd find a way to win have gotten burned doing business deals with him. Again, barring a miracle, that's what would happen to all of his supporters if he becomes the GOP nominee in 2016. Many of them don't see it for the same reason Ron Paul's fans couldn't see it in 2012. Sure, Paul had a diehard following that voted for him in Internet polls and showed up at his events, but he alienated too many people to ever win a general election while he was building up his fanbase. Trump has done the same thing, except a little bigger and better.

Getting beyond that, early on, I was willing to give Trump an opportunity to flesh out his policies and prove he's a conservative. Unfortunately, he never did that and there's little reason to think that a man who has switched political parties 5 times in his life and has never voted in a Republican primary suddenly became a diehard conservative in his mid-sixties. People who wouldn't buy this from any other politician are swallowing it hook, line and sinker with Trump even though his positions on some issues have switched from week-to-week.

Keep in mind that the most consistent political position Donald Trump seems to have held over the last 15 years is that we need a full government takeover in healthcare, which incidentally, would be WORSE than Obamacare. Trump was still pushing that less than six months ago, but now says he supports a free market plan. Do you believe him? If so, why?

In 2013, Ted Cruz was leading the fight against Marco Rubio's gang-of-8 amnesty bill while Trump was talking up amnesty, the Dream Act and comprehensive immigration reform. Nobody with half a brain in his head would believe any other politician claiming to be tough on immigration if he was fighting for amnesty three years ago. So, why believe Trump?

After having read several of his books, I can tell you that Trump has core principles that he believes in personally and in business, but that doesn't seem to be the case with politics. Since Trump is first and foremost a dealmaker, what makes you think you'd like the deals someone who doesn't share your principles would cut on your behalf any more than you liked the deals John Boehner made? What makes you think Trump would be any different than another celebrity like Arnold Schwarzenegger who talked a good game and then ended up governing from the left-of-center once he was in office?

Also, as entertaining and successful as Trump may be, he doesn't have the right temperament to be President. It's a serious, sober job and even if you like him, you have to admit that he's crude, mean-spirited, narcissistic, unpredictable and conspiratorial. Would you consider any other candidate who trashed POWs, "I like people that weren't captured," made fun of the disabled (He's done this more than once), said he never asked God for forgiveness and keeps making creepy comments about how he'd like to date his daughter, "(Ivanka) does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her?" Even if you're willing to overlook those comments because you love Trump so much, people who aren't Trump fans will not give him a pass. That will be doubly true after the Democrats hammer him with a billion dollars' worth of negative ads that he won't be able to effectively respond to because even Trump admits that he doesn’t know how he would finance his campaign in a general election.

Trump also spends an inordinate amount of time insulting people on Twitter. It amazes me that anyone complains about people hammering Trump when these are just some of the comments on his Twitter account over the last three days….

"@Rketeltas: Rubio isn't experienced enough to be Commander in Chief. Rubio is a carbon copy of Obama. We need a true leader Vote Trump"

"@red77angelluis: @realDonaldTrump @NeilTurner_ @YouTube LET'S GET TRUMP!! GO TRUMP!! USA!USA!"

"@Knight276:  @C4Constitution trump right again #With_Cruz_you_lose! Nobody supports Canuck Cruz #MakeAmericaGreatAgain  #trump2016

"@M0ther0f2kids: @meetthepress @NBCNews @clewandowski Everyone B smart! U know deep down Trump is the ONLY 1 able to best LEAD"

A wonderful article by a writer who truly gets it. I am for the people and the people are for me. #Trump2016…

"@realOllieTaylor: Isn't it time we had a president? Let goofy Glen keep Canada Cruz who can't win. The American people have Trump!"

"@WhiteGenocideTM: @realDonaldTrump Poor Jeb. I could've sworn I saw him outside Trump Tower the other day! "

Trump wants to be the GOP nominee, but he sounds like one of the mean kids running for third grade class President.

Incidentally, the last tweet is from a white supremacist who spends a lot of time raving about Hitler and "Jewmerica." Despite the fact there were numerous articles criticizing Trump for retweeting a white power nut, he did not take down the tweet. If, let's say, you're black or Jewish, ask yourself how comfortable you are with Trump now that he's knowingly retweeting white supremacists?  

Look at all of this and tell me that you trust someone who is this petty, immature and erratic with the responsibility of handling the IRS, the DOJ, the DHS, our military and our nuclear codes. I certainly wouldn't. It's fine to say that you don't trust Sanders or Hillary either, but if even many Republicans don't think he's together enough to handle it, why would the American people?

It's great to be supporting a candidate who you believe is winning, but I think back to the saying, "Play stupid games, get stupid prizes." The prize for getting Trump to the finish line as our nominee would be losing to whomever the Democrats nominate and then watching helplessly as Obamacare stays in place, all of Obama's executive orders stand and the Democrats pick four more Supreme Court Justices.

If we nominate Trump, we'll have our third straight lose/lose election where most conservatives will have a candidate who doesn't truly represent their views as the GOP nominee. Of course, if Trump is our nominee, I will vote for him and I will try to do what I can to help him win, but it would be easier to ski uphill than to get a wildly unpopular Rockefeller Republican like Trump into the White House.  


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To: Kaslin
we'll have our third straight lose/lose election where most conservatives will have a candidate who doesn't truly represent their views as the GOP nominee.

That's impossible. We always choose the candidate that represents our views. We just lie to ourselves about what our views really are.

141 posted on 01/26/2016 6:28:34 AM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: xzins
GW Bush's refusal to defend his own administration still sticks in my craw as his greatest failure and the primary reason we have Obama.

DINGDINGDING!

Winner, winner. Chicken dinner!

142 posted on 01/26/2016 6:28:42 AM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Kaslin
Trumps a fun guy and he's done good things restructuring the debate this cycle. He's bothered me little, but it's the weird messianic goofiness of many of his supporters that has disgusted me. They way they only want to shout down and rah-rah away any discussion of his myriad flaws and bad history. It's been so fanboi hero worship - behavior I always associated with the numbskulled left wing. As conservatives, I would have expected a thorough vetting and examination of his credentials, temperament and history. Instead, it's been like "shut up and leave Trump alone! Did you see the way he made fun of Jeb! He's better than Reagan! He'll win all 50 states! Black people love him too!"

Like smitten schoolgirls.

143 posted on 01/26/2016 6:28:58 AM PST by dead ("I'm up to my eyeball in virgin goats!" - Mullah Omar)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Oh is that so?

Only a fool like you would believe that

I Like Donald Trump, But I Don't Think He Can Win A General Election

144 posted on 01/26/2016 6:29:46 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Hatteras
You got it.....good for you....

Ted Cruz 2016 President of these United States.

145 posted on 01/26/2016 6:31:02 AM PST by annieokie
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
One thing for sure, our nominee will love America and truly believe it is uniquely exceptional status among all nations.

Our candidate will not blame & apologize on behalf of America for all the world's problems.

146 posted on 01/26/2016 6:31:10 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: xzins
But the real question for each of us is IF our preferred candidate fails. I will gladly support Ted Cruz, or Marco Rubio, OR.... Will you gladly support Trump?

I really wish that question would stop being asked. Please explain why you ask?

But, I will again give my answer.

Trump will have my vote in that scenario, when he convinces me that he will lead in accordance with the enumerated powers and, among other things, the Tenth Amendment.

The latter, of course, would require him to walk back his support of Obergfell. (Remember that?)

147 posted on 01/26/2016 6:32:14 AM PST by don-o (Where did my tagline go?)
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To: Helicondelta

Quick go to the bath room, you’re full of it, besides I don’t thin you read the entire article


148 posted on 01/26/2016 6:32:20 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: nclaurel; Mr Rogers
We don't need a minister or spiritual leader.

Well... we do.... BUT NOT as President, because that would be mixing the POWER OF RELIGION and the POWER OF STATE which is (as we have been repeatedly told) illegal.

149 posted on 01/26/2016 6:32:45 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Kaslin

Trump is erratic. Trump is personally vicious. As a result, Trump’s unfavorables are sky high. Trump has given campaign money to Hillary and the Democrats. If elected, he will be only slightly better than a Democrat.


150 posted on 01/26/2016 6:32:55 AM PST by Crucial (At the heart all leftidsts s the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: Gaffer

It’s a good summary of the points against Trump, but not persuasive. He assumes the worst on insufficient evidence just as some Trump fans assume the best.
It’s just a collection of the author’s assumptions.
Yeah, and the “was a big fan” meme doesn’t ring true.


151 posted on 01/26/2016 6:33:08 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Aquamarine

You’re welcome.


152 posted on 01/26/2016 6:33:46 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: ScottinVA; papertyger
While it is true the Act doesn't specifically say he can't ban a religion, do you really think such an attempt would stand up in court?

It's worked so far in banning Christian immigrants.

153 posted on 01/26/2016 6:35:14 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: freeangel

Bump


154 posted on 01/26/2016 6:35:14 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: ScottinVA

>>> The President has authority over banning entry by citizens from specific nations, not religions.

Au contraire. USCODE-2011-title8-chap12-subchapII-partII-sec1182

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions
by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of
any aliens or of any class of aliens into the
United States would be detrimental to the interests
of the United States, he may by proclamation,
and for such period as he shall deem necessary,
suspend the entry of all aliens or any
class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants,
or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions
he may deem to be appropriate.


155 posted on 01/26/2016 6:35:36 AM PST by XEHRpa
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

I modified my opinion based on later feedback.

But I still think this post has an agenda.

However the author seems sincere.

Wrong. But sincere. :D


156 posted on 01/26/2016 6:35:58 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Kaslin

I’m a current Trump fan who is at the point of not supporting anyone else.


157 posted on 01/26/2016 6:36:15 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Kaslin

Hope people read the whole thing & think about it.

I don’t think the “political establishment” can or will be defeated with Trump, or with any other candidate. Cruz, IMO, is the only one with the brains, morals, and perseverance to fight against it, and he will need people with like character to fight against it, “inch by inch.” But defeat it? A whole lot of people in our leadership will have to be saved by the grace of God through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ in order for any kind of true, lasting change. May His brethren continually pray for our leaders and nation and stand up for the truth of the Word of God.

And may the God in heaven, the one and only true God, have mercy on our nation!


158 posted on 01/26/2016 6:36:36 AM PST by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Helicondelta

Sounds like a whole lot of truth regarding the Donald!

It’s difficult for Trump supporters to accept because of the emotional bond involved...


159 posted on 01/26/2016 6:36:41 AM PST by HoosierWordsmith
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To: mrsmith

Reminds me of all those people who used to call CSPAN and say “I’m a Republican, but I’m voting for Obama”.


160 posted on 01/26/2016 6:36:47 AM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireallysupportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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